sent in by J.H. Milivojevicif my mother loved me so much
then why did she lie to me so much
why did she try to make me believe in magic
why did she try to make me believe in life after death
why did try to make me believe that god hears me when I tell a lie
why did she try to make me believe that we will all be together again after we die
do you believe in magic
have you ever believed in magic
haven’t you always appreciated good sleight of hand
haven’t you always appreciated a good demonstration of defiance of the laws of nature?
a coin disappears into thin air
a rabbit appears out of nowhere
Jesus dies a horrible agonizing death – then comes back to life
[god knows why…who would want to come back to such torture?]
eventually my mother explained to me about the tooth fairy
then later about santa claus
but she has continued to hang on to the magic of jesus
what a dirty joke
now she’s old and scared because she suspects she really will be punished for all the really bad stuff she did during her life – it just seems too easy to get off simply by believing in the magic.
let’s see….
she hurt my dad by flirting and sleeping around while married to him
she had those two kids by another man, but she made my dad put his name on the birth certificate – twice!
she emotionally abandoned me when she fell in love with that guy
and she did even worse with poor little Patti
she never would stand up for Mary when dad attacked her and put her down so bad
she did all that bad stuff and yet they’ve been telling her all her life that she will be forgiven simply by believing that jesus is the true son of god
but what about dressing the wounds?
what about addressing the injuries?
What about apologizing?
What about acknowledging those hurts?
this might be the very, very worst crime that christianity is guilty of
Norman
Oklahoma
USA
Joined: 11
Left: 12
Was: southern baptist
Now: atheist
Converted under: parental guidance
De-converted becuase of: clear thinking
email: jaquine at ou.edu
I never told my parents that Santa was a lie, nor the tooth fairy, although I knew something was amiss.
I bet they never told you how the pilgrims came over with their jesus book and killed 99% of the American Indians in the name of their bible god.
Christians have allowed themselves to be mentally dumbed down and we have lost our way as a nation and America is slowly sinking into the abyss of jesus loves me 2000 years ago.
All religions are derived from childhood fear, what if I get sick, what if I die, where will I go, we've been told as long as we have jesus by our side, everything will be alright, but they forgot to tell the American Indians that!
Welcome to sanity!
On another note, this has always been my pet gripe about Christianity--it is a religion of abnegation. It teaches that its followers have no personal responsibility. While you might not believe in God, at least Judaism teaches personal responsibility. No scapegoats in that religion. (Yeah, I know, it has its own myths).
On another note, this has always been my pet gripe about Christianity--it is a religion of abnegation. It teaches that its followers have no personal responsibility. While you might not believe in God, at least Judaism teaches personal responsibility. No scapegoats in that religion. (Yeah, I know, it has its own myths).
Am I seeing correctly that you are only 12 years old? Or have you been free of Christianity for a while?
Gee! It took me about 60 more years and the advent of the Internet to realize that the bible was just bad fiction!
Dan
Okay, let's suppose that this god of yours is the one true god.
Now, when I get before him, he's going to damn me for eternity, right? I'm going to live eternally in horrific unending horror - am I right on?
Okay fine.
My temporal sins are going to be justly dealt with by a never ending retributive punishment.
I would like you, Wes, to tell us here exactly what horrific crimes you've committed in your life that you believe you deserve to be torured for, not just a little while, but for ever and ever and ever? What crime or crimes do you think you've done that justify an eternity of woe?
The trouble with your god's sense of justice is that it's not nearly as well developed as modern man's. The punishment should fit the crime, don't you think? Really, the only sin that will send me to your god's hell is the sin of unbelief.
Unbelief?
Sounds kind of petty to me. I don't believe in you so I get tortured?
Think about it Wes.
I'm sorry, but any being who puts belief BEFORE a man's character isn't worthy of beans, let alone "praise". Of course, this is totally presupposing the existance of Yahweh, the ever invisible Biblegod.
So Wes, firstly, please provide objective evidence for the existance of your god, EXcluding the X-ian bible, which has no other proof than "itself". Waiting.
What if it weren't true that Jesus is coming in the clouds to get you?
What if every time you prayed, there was noboby there listening?
What if when you get to the other side, you realize you wasted your time following pointless rules and regulations?
What if Christianity is a big myth created by the Roman empire to keep the masses appeased?
What if people invented the redemption doctrine because all religious rituals in the ancient world involved blood sacrifices?
The what if's from us to you can go on forever!
Lorena
http://exfundamentalist.blogspot.com/
You can see the Sun, you can feel it's presense, without the Sun we would all soon die, you know for 100% certainity that the Sun exists. How come you prefer to worship something that no one has ever seen, and you have no way of knowing or proving that it exists, yet you prefer to worship something that someone has told you exists?
Where's the logic in worshipping an invisible concept invented by a man?
I think you are saying that we should believe the bible stories and the Jesus story in particular, just because we have a need to believe in something more "just" than the "Survival of the fittest" The system that God created whereas the strongest, smartest, and most cunning survive and reproduce, and the weak, stupid, and naive fall to the wayside, and become extinct.
So what symbol does God give us to signal that we should stop killing and overpowering the weak and stupid, in order to enhance our own survival?
Well, he creates a human and gives him the special status of "Only Son," and then proceeds to have him murdered as a sacrifice to himself.
That ain't a very good start Wes! IT smacks of paganism!
Dan (Rationalist)
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