By Daniel MorganThe debate bode very well for atheism, and very poorly for any future hope for
Friel at a career in philosophy. I think
Eddie won handily. Friel basically sermonized and waxed emotive all night. His only arguments were from
incredulity and
ignorance (something I expected, from
personal experience with him and
the general creationist style). He honestly sounded more like a guy trying to convert a bunch of teenagers than someone attempting to make a rational case for theism. But...make up your mind for yourself, and leave a comment.
I really won't go any further than that, because I swear I don't think Friel is worth the analysis. He had nothing new, and what older arguments he did have were mangled versions (e.g., the first cause argument), which Eddie was able to refute, as he was met only with more personal incredulity and appeals to ignorance.
I was unable to tape Eddie's opening because I was limited by lack of equipment, but his
arguments for naturalism were almost identical to what he presented (see below) to
AAFSA last Sunday, albeit abbreviated, since he had 15 mins instead of 45 -- Eddie opened with arguments against the supernatural
along Humean lines:
miracles, the
argument from physical minds,
arguments against an afterlife, the
argument from divine hiddenness, and
the problem of evil. It was typical Eddie -- cogent, precise and clear.
The
Center for Inquiry - Daytona came off looking great, from their representation to the graphics and banners and the ACLU table. Props to them for their hard work -- they were all really nice and appeared to have taken this project quite seriously.
My seat for
part 1 gave me a poor angle to begin with, and the issue of quality was compounded because I was only able to post this in low-res as the shitty
Google Video Desktop Uploader for large files wasn't working earlier (no matter what I tried) with the hi-quality versions. I have DVDs (hi-res, 3.0Mbps) burned, and if you want a DVD, email me and we'll negotiate the $
***. I also have
Eddie's talk at UF encoded and burned to DVD, and am uploading it to
GV right now.
Here is part 1 of 2, which I recommend watching below as GV stretches it out and makes it look even worse at their site:
Here is part 2 of 2 of the debate:
Here is part 1 of 2 of Eddie's talk at UF on 3-25-07:
And finally,
here is part 2 of 2 of Eddie's talk at UF:
Please leave thoughts and comments below.
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PS: I'm always amazed by how differently two eyewitnesses can report the facts about an event -- see here for someone who thinks that atheists were "humiliated" by Eddie's performance...
You be the judge.
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