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Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
.: posted Wednesday, October 31, 2007 :::

I asked a Christian poster to this site if he kept the Sabbath holy or if he profaned the Sabbath by going shopping, or perhaps eating at McDonalds after church, etc.

Here’s what he said:

First and fourth commandments say the same thing. The NT doesn't mention the fourth Commandment to keep because Jesus is that Commandment. He mentions to keep the other nine but that one was replaced by the New Covenant in Christ.


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God, Lies and Faith
.: posted Tuesday, October 30, 2007 :::

By DagoodS

Does God lie? Interesting question to demonstrate our inability to verify claims made about God. I occasionally have the following conversation:

Christian: God does not Lie!
Me: How do you know?
Christian: Because He says He tells the truth!
Me: But if he could lie…couldn’t he be lying when he says he always tells the truth? How can you tell the difference between a lying God saying, ‘I always tell the truth’ and a truthful God saying, ‘I always tell the truth’?

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Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman
.: posted Tuesday, October 30, 2007 :::

Dr. Bart D. Ehrman is a New Testament scholar, textual critic, an expert on early Christianity, a professor and the chairman of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the author of "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why." Ehrman attempts to discern, as near as possible, the original wording of the gospels, epistles, and other ancient texts. He champions the thesis that early Christians, as they developed a single, orthodox doctrine, altered the Biblical texts in order to make them more uniform and in line with changing beliefs.

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Christian parents, beware!
.: posted Tuesday, October 30, 2007 :::

From By The Book Comics

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There are so many contradictions in the Bible, you have to be careful or your kids will figure it out. You just can't go in there willy-nilly and read it yourself! Please ask your preacher which verses are okay to read. Better yet, just listen to the sermon on Sunday and don't try to read (or think) for yourself. — DocMike


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The New Atheists on Organized Freethought
.: posted Monday, October 29, 2007 :::

The Humanist Network News (HNN) Audio Podcast is a monthly one-hour talk show created by the Institute for Humanist Studies.

Every episode of the HNN Audio Podcast explores a different area of humanist thought, from politics to pop culture.

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The Enemies of Reason
.: posted Sunday, October 28, 2007 :::

The Enemies of Reason is a two-part television documentary, written and presented by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. From the makers:

Is it rational that the dead can communicate with the living and give sound advice on how they should live their lives? What about sticking pins into your body to free the flow of Chi energy and cure your illness? Or the bending of spoons using your mind alone? Is that rational? Richard Dawkins doesn’t think so, and feels it is his duty to expose those areas of belief that exist without scientific proof, yet manage to hold the nation under their spell. He will take on the world’s leading proponents in their field of expertise, meet the victims who have used them and expose the history of the movements – from the charlatans who have milked these practices to the experiments and testing that have failed to produce conclusive results.[1]



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Christian Soldiers: a report by Dan Rather
.: posted Sunday, October 28, 2007 :::

A watchdog group claims that members of far-right-wing evangelical Christian groups are having an undue influence on the U.S. military.

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21 Unconvincing Arguments for God
.: posted Sunday, October 28, 2007 :::

August Berkshire, the public relations representative for Minnesota Atheists and Vice-President of Atheist Alliance International, has put together a simple, concise list of 21 Unconvincing Arguments for God (PDF).

Here's his list:

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Scientific Arrogance?
.: posted Sunday, October 28, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

Arrogance. It's a charge often levelled against those who reject religious faith, among whose numbers can be found many scientists. And, surely there are some scientists and their supporters who are arrogant, just as there are arrogant believers. Yet, while both hold humility as a high ideal, frequently it is the scientist who manages to inspire us by the very public admission of a mistake. In fact, science, more often than not, progresses in spite of arrogance, with advances made by disproofs, rather than proofs, of a theory.

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Brother Jeff in 2008!
.: posted Sunday, October 28, 2007 :::

Bless the Lard! I am pleased to announce that the Spook of Kryasst who is also somehow magically Him has magically inspired me to enter the race for President of the United States! Glory!

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Trying to pick up the pieces of all I once "knew"
.: posted Saturday, October 27, 2007 :::

Sent in by DifferentNow

On January 15, 2007, I told my husband I wanted a divorce.

It was a cold day in New York City. My second time there. We were on a company retreat with our business, the graphic design company we both owned. I woke up at 6 a.m. unable to sleep and went down to the hotel lobby so I could email the man I had fallen in love with and tell him I was antsy... really antsy. I couldn't put on a front any longer. It wasn't in my nature to hide things, and I couldn't' keep it up for long.

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What if everyone stopped believing in god?
.: posted Saturday, October 27, 2007 :::

Sent in by Geoff

As I'm sitting here at 1:06 a.m. in the morning, something occurred to me: What if everyone stopped believing in gods?

No, really. What if everyone everywhere just gave up Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc., etc. Would a god still exist?

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Creationism's disingenuous "Crossroads"
.: posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 :::

Movie producers use lying subterfuge in the "creation" of a new upcoming movie denigrating science and promoting "Intelligent Design."

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Here's What the Evangelical Christian Must Defend
.: posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 :::

By John W. Loftus

He or she needs to defend the existence of the social Trinitarian God (versus an anti-social Trinitarian God) of the Bible (which had a long process of formation and of borrowing material from others) who never began to exist and will never cease to exist (even though everything we experience has a beginning and an end), who never learned any new truths, who does not think (for thinking demands weighing temporal alternatives)

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Reason: the best counselor
.: posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 :::

By Bill J

I was reading up on an old friend from the ministry the other day. He went back to his roots in ministry and is providing counseling to people burdened by anger, depression and other issues. I recall his teachings and how they influenced me and others in ministry. Looking back I now see how narrow his views were and apparently still are.
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You have no true understanding of God, Jesus or the Holy Sprite
.: posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 :::

From Janice S

I came across your Website by accident, read your comments. My heart goes out to you. You have no true understanding of God, Jesus or the Holy Sprite.

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Conversation with Ismael (a Muslim)
.: posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 :::

By Tiny Frog

There’s a guy who comes into one of the local coffee shops - 40ish, a businessman, and speaks with a foreign accent. I had met him a few months ago. I didn’t know he was a Muslim until a few weeks ago when he mentioned fasting for Ramadan. Last night, I was working on my laptop at the seat next to him, and he said something to the effect that the US should withdraw from Iraq and let the Sunnis and Shia fight it out. I just kind of nodded, not really intending to get into a political discussion. I don’t recall exactly how we got on the subject, but we started talking about Islam. He was from Palestine and was a Sunni - although, he had a number of conservative Christian business partners and friends. He seemed moderate enough, didn’t have the “I’m a fanatic” beard, had lived in the US for 20+ years, but he prayed five times a day and had socially conservative views.

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Action Item: California Wildfires & Secular Charity
.: posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

According to the Incident Information System tracking the California wildfires, 12 of 25 tracked fires are 100% contained. The fires, ranging from the Simi Valley to the Mexican border, are responsible for about 5 deaths at the time of this writing. They have also displaced nearly 1 million people, with well over 1,000 homes consumed and nearly 70,000 still threatened. More than 400 square miles in seven counties have been ravaged by fire which, being fed by desert winds, has proven itself highly resistant to air attacks, hoses, and (of course) prayer.

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Dumbledore is gay, author reveals
.: posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

Last Saturday, J.K. Rowling, the author of the famous Harry Potter series of books, revealed that the Headmaster of Hogwarts is gay. The revelation provoked gasps and applause from those present to hear the revelation, which was prompted by a fan's question concerning whether Dumbledore would find true love in the final book, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows."

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Who Deserves Heaven as a Reward?
.: posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 :::

By Atheist Tooth Fairy (ATF)

In learning about the oh-so-many flaws of the Christian dogma, one issue I rarely see come up in discussion is how the Christian God determines who deserves the 'reward' of heaven.

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You were never a Christian
.: posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 :::

I happened upon your website, it made me sad to see the Ex-Christians and all of your stories..

How can people give up on God?

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New Research into the Origins of Life
.: posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

Just how did life begin? Were the compounds necessary for life present in the massive protoplanetary dust cloud that surrounded our young Sun? Did they then become a part of the planets of our solar system, including one that would eventually yield complex life? Did they arrive from some other source, such as a comet or meteor?

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Inconvenient Inaccuracies?
.: posted Monday, October 22, 2007 :::

From The Epoch Times

Former US vice president Al Gore delivers a speech before a screening of the film he helped make of his best-selling global warming book An Inconvenient Truth in Cannes, southern France.

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Hate on Trial
.: posted Monday, October 22, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

On March 10th, 2006, seven members of the Westboro Baptist Church attended - and picketed - the funeral of Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who had tragically been killed in Iraq. A few months later, Albert Snyder, the fallen Marine's father, brought suit against them alleging defamation, invasion of privacy, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The lawsuit is believed to be the first against the church by a fallen service member's family.

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Rightly Dividing The Word
.: posted Monday, October 22, 2007 :::

By Tim Simmons

Part 1. Christians cannot accurately interpret the Bible

Wait! Before you go reaching for that post reply button, wouldn't it be better to see what I have to say to support the above assertion?

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Spirit in the sky
.: posted Monday, October 22, 2007 :::

Sent in by Sharon

I remember a day in 2000 when my children were still living at home. My de-conversion had already begun, I think. I was getting into their contemporary music, both Christian and “secular,” as it was called. I was going to a church where I felt more free, dancing was part of the worship service, and now I was dancing at home to anything.

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Obsession -- Radical Islam's War Against the West
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

"Obsession is without exaggeration one of the most important films of our time. " –Glenn Beck, CNN Headline News


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Christians declare war on those evil athiests
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

From TownHall.Com

How to shut up an atheist

The atheist’s days of running circles around the Christian with their darling questions are drawing to a close. Yes, the fat lady just wrenched herself off her humongous backside, has cleared her throat and now is fixin’ to sing the finale on the atheist’s ability to have fun with their specious little fairy tales at the Christians’ expense.

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16-year-old pastor's son arrested for shooting parents
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

WELLINGTON, Ohio -- Police in Brighton Township in Lorain County said that a teenager shot his parents.

The boy's mother was killed and his father, who is also a pastor, is in critical condition after being shot in their home on Peck-Wadsworth Road on Saturday.

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Halloween a serious threat to Christians?
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

Sent in by Beaster

Once again, we have Christians telling us what a holiday is or isn't about. Now they are threatened by Halloween, yet have no problem rubbing Christmas in the face of others and get offended if you use Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Wow, the hypocrisy. The following is a letter that was sent in to the Dallas Morning News regarding the celebration of Halloween. Pathetic....

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The Sacred Book of Kush
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

Keep a copy with you. When confronted by a religious fanatic quoting the Bible, pull out The Sacred Book of Kush and ask what the difference is. You will notice that The Sacred Book of Kush has everything that the Bible has, including circular reasoning, extravagant and unfounded claims, threats and promises (both equally unlikely ever to be fulfilled), arrogance, jealousy, stupidity, and sales pitches for the priesthood. It also has two things the Bible doesn't: a sense of humor and a merciful brevity.

Chapter 1

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Origin of Vision Discovered
.: posted Sunday, October 21, 2007 :::

From LiveScience.Com:

You are reading these words right now because 600 million years ago, an aquatic animal called a Hydra developed light-receptive genes—the origin of animal vision.

It wasn't exactly 20-20 vision back then though.



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Oral R.U. Without Dick ?
.: posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 :::

By Alan of The Whited Sepulchre

Oral Roberts University may lose Dick "Richard" Roberts, the current university president.

A THREE-RING CIRCUS

Three instructors have been fired, there are allegations that current ORU first lady Lindsey Roberts likes 'em young, that money has been misplaced, and that documents have been shredded. The University comptroller has been fired. In a faith-healing gone bad, three blind men were made lame.

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Religion: Threat to Public Health?
.: posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

As any parent can tell you, fear is simply part of the job. Beginning even before one's child is born, fear is a constant companion, an ambient ocean that swells and subsides at every stage of the child's life. Even otherwise joyful or thrilling moments are sometimes laced with fear, such as when one's son or daughter stands for the first time, steps onto a school bus, rides a bike, gets a driver's license, or even graduates from school. Indeed, the altruistic concerns of parents are so extensive and diverse that quantifying them is effectively impossible. Some of them are, of course, justified. Some of them, well, not so much.

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A couple of comments on Pascal’s Wager and the Hellfire and damnation factor
.: posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 :::

Sent in by Bob B

I have always regarded Pascal’s Wager as an inherently fraudulent argument. It is invariably trotted out by the Theists with the false confidence that it somehow ultimately trumps any argument that can be thrown against it. First of all, PW is an argument of accommodation not logic. What if God is real and we have renounced him? Isn’t it better to hedge our bets that we should believe, against our better judgment, just in case there is a Heavenly reward and Hellish punishment?

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Abominations that are causing desolation
.: posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 :::

A letter from Gary T

To all "ex", "Non" christians, and all others reading this who feel they are disapointed or confused by the amount of ignorance, lies, perversion and confusion that is rapidly overtaking much of the Christian world today - I understand much of your heartaches, and I'm a Christian.

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Many people use God as a temporary fix
.: posted Thursday, October 18, 2007 :::

By IDarwin

This is my first time to this site, and I liked all the comments. I figured I'd write something.

As I read the comments, it reminds me of the Christians I know in my life (my family for example).

From my experience, it's not the evidence that causes them to believe so much as being born into it, and then believing God has changed their life, or "blessed" it somehow.

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Christianity is a crock
.: posted Thursday, October 18, 2007 :::

Sent in by John

I grew up a Roman Catholic and when I reached 18 was co-erced into checking out Pentecostalism by some friends of mine at school.

I went along and was pretty much converted within a week. What joy! What peace! What a crock!

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Oregon Pastor Arrested for Sexually Abusing 8 Women
.: posted Wednesday, October 17, 2007 :::

(PORTLAND, Ore. ) - Portland Police Sexual Assault Detectives have arrested a 38-year-old pastor who allegedly sexually abused eight women associated with his church.

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GOD IN A BOX
.: posted Wednesday, October 17, 2007 :::

By Joe Musselwhite

I thought some of you might enjoy my "God in a box" experiment.

I've had fun with this for years. Here's how it works:

Go buy a small cardboard box around 2-3 inches square with a removable lid on it.

On top of the lid write: "Inside this box is God" and now you're set.

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Can a skeptic believe in God?
.: posted Tuesday, October 16, 2007 :::

This is a segment from the 2006 Amazing Meeting. Michael Shermer speaks first followed by James Randi. These two clips are only a short introduction to a great discussion. For details see: http://www.randi.org/amazingmeeting/

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The Violent Heritage of Christianty
.: posted Tuesday, October 16, 2007 :::

© 2007 by Tim Simmons

The recent insistence by Midwest Painter that nowhere in the Bible are Christians commanded to kill non-Christians has prompted me to do a bit of typing. I’ve already known about most of what I’ve dug up here but I thought I might try to put just SOME of the evidence in one post that Christianity has a bloody heritage not entirely unconnected to its holy scripture. My belief was that the Bible did command violence under certain circumstances but a wholesale command to kill anyone who was not already a Christian clearly is absent from the New Testament writings but IS depicted as historical events and direct commands from god in many places of the Old Testament.


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Church pastor dies while enjoying unusual hobby
.: posted Monday, October 15, 2007 :::

The Montgomery Advertiser reported the death of 51-year-old Rev. Gary Aldridge, a Montgomery, Alabama, Baptist Minister, back in June. The article has since been removed from the paper's website (articles are only archived there for a week), however, here is the original text...

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I wasted good satire
.: posted Monday, October 15, 2007 :::

Sent in by Bryan B

Why is it that fundamentalists have to have a complete lack of sense of humor? Why is it so hard for them to detect shades of sarcasm, or hints of mockery? I guess the reason I'm asking is because I sent a satirical letter to Answers in Genesis, and it went like this:

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Called by GOD to preach?
.: posted Sunday, October 14, 2007 :::


These Young Preachers Say They Save Souls

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Where are you, God?
.: posted Sunday, October 14, 2007 :::

Sent in by Scott

I grew up as a Catholic, believing in God. Eventually my faith wandered and I had many questions. I became a Methodist and was raising a family. I still believed in a God that would help explain the mystery of the cosmos, but Christianity was becoming increasingly absurd to me.

Nine months ago, my ten-year-old son Connor died of a heart attack related to leukemia.

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Breaking Up With Jesus
.: posted Sunday, October 14, 2007 :::

I have found that grieving the loss of my faith feels the same as when I grieve the loss of a friend. If you have found this to be true for yourself, don’t be embarrassed about it. Of course you are going to grieve when you lose something very important to you whether it is a person, a pet, a job, a home or a belief system. After any loss, there’s a hole in your life where something you loved used to be and it hurts knowing it’s not there. -- Amy Black, in "Breaking Up With Jesus"


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The War on the "War on Christmas"
.: posted Saturday, October 13, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

As the holiday season approaches, many businesses are beginning to put up signs, decorations, and displays in preparation for the inevitable feeding frenzy that precedes the venerated Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. Many begin to roll out their holiday products as well. One such company is Mrs. Fields, purveyor of cookies for a variety of occasions.

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Sam Harris' Problem with Atheism
.: posted Saturday, October 13, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

Sam Harris stands poised on the brink of history as one of the preeminent thinkers of this century. His abilities as a wordsmith notwithstanding, the clear, incisive logic he uses to demonstrate his ideas is nothing short of refreshing. An example of this can be found by reading the transcript of a recent speech, delivered at the Atheist Alliance International Convention this year. Faced with a choice between preaching to the choir and challenging his audience, he chose the latter course, and in so doing moved the conversation forward.

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Freethought Week
.: posted Saturday, October 13, 2007 :::

Reposted from: Freethought Café by J.C. Samuelson

The following subject matter applied to last week. It appeared last Monday at the original site. Nevertheless, since October is sometimes considered Freethought Month, it still seems relevant.

Examination of a WitchThe death toll had been mounting for some time now. Just this month, eight more had been hanged, some of whom were respected members of the community. This troubled Reverend Mathers, who knew that at least some of the condemned must be innocent. It was clear that something more had to be done to quell the hysteria that had gripped the community or other innocent people would visit the gallows.

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I'm an atheist in the Bible Belt -- What do I do?
.: posted Friday, October 12, 2007 :::

Sent in by Caleb

Well, I sense my whole de-conversion from Christianity is about to come to a head.

I guess it is funny how it is all playing out. You see, when I was a youth pastor and ministry director, my faith and commitment to God and ministry led me to neglect my family.

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Christianity taught me...
.: posted Friday, October 12, 2007 :::

Sent in by Sharon H

Christianity taught me that I must always forgive. Now I’m learning that while forgiveness is indeed good for the soul, forgiveness is a choice not a mandate. Compassion is more effective than forgiveness, because it involves stepping back and detaching from the tendency to judge.

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How to quit worrying about global warming and be happy
.: posted Friday, October 12, 2007 :::


By dano

I am a 71 year old Agnostic, I believe that the only sensible definition of God is "the creator of everything," the prime mover, if you will.

God would have to be the creator of everything, because if there were something that It didn't create, then that would suggest the existence of more than one God. So, I'm sticking with "creator of everything"

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Prayer guidlines published for Muslim astronauts
.: posted Thursday, October 11, 2007 :::

A Malaysian doctor who will spend the last days of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan in space has vowed to follow the rituals of his faith even as he hurtles around Earth at 17,000 mph.

Muslims are required to wash their hands, feet, face and hair before prayers — a luxury on the Soyuz where water is so precious that even sweat and urine are recycled.

To get around these problems, 150 Malaysian scholars, scientists, and astronauts brainstormed and published an 18-page booklet of guidelines for Muslim astronauts.

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Eternal Forces strike back
.: posted Thursday, October 11, 2007 :::

Remember that Christian video game called Eternal Forces that came out last year? Well, apparently, criticism of the game caused sales to lag a bit. And in response, Left Behind Games is fighting back.

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Wisdom, comfort, and direction from the Word of God?
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

By Dave, the WM
"Give ear to my words, O LORD
Consider my meditation
Hearken unto the voice of my cry,
My King, and my God
For unto thee will I pray
My voice shalt thou hear in the morning
O LORD, in the morning will I direct my prayer
Unto thee, and will look up." — Psalm 5, vs. 1–3

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How do you handle grief?
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

From Jannah B

I've been thinking about Christianity and the crutch it is since my leaving it.

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Questioning my assumptions
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

From Chris A

Since commencing a reevaluation of my beliefs earlier this fall, I've become consumed with doubts, and I was hoping that perhaps some of the former Christians here could give my troubling questions an answer. I would have gone straight to your excellent forums with this, but something seems to have gone wrong with the sign-in process...

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Flapjacks for Flo
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

By Flo

What I'm about to tell you will sound unbelievable and I doubt many of you will believe me but when you witness a miracle from God you have to tell somebody.

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Christianity: Out With The Old...
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

...and in with the new.

An agnostic takes a trip to Vatican City.

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Is there "free will" in Christianity?
.: posted Tuesday, October 09, 2007 :::

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man-living in the sky-who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... But He loves you! ~ George Carlin


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To any ex-Christians in New York
.: posted Monday, October 08, 2007 :::

From Diane

I'm a freelance writer based out of New York, and I'm looking for a religion story.

Could you direct me to any Ex Christians here that would be willing to talk to me?

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Atheists spread the word
.: posted Monday, October 08, 2007 :::

View the 22-minute documentary about atheism that aired on CBC's The National on October 5, 2007.

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Christian camp leader jailed for child sex abuse
.: posted Monday, October 08, 2007 :::

A Christian former camp leader robbed boys of their innocence and grossly abused his position of trust when he sexually abused them over a 14-year period, a court has heard.

Neville Cyril Collins, 44, was yesterday sentenced to 11 years in prison for abuse of six boys between 1984 and 1998.

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Oral Roberts: True Christianity
.: posted Sunday, October 07, 2007 :::

Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts' university, or else he would be "called home."

Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.

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Welcome to This World
.: posted Sunday, October 07, 2007 :::

From the Washington Post:

By Matt Cherry

Celebrating the major transitions in life is as old as humanity. Even before there was organized religion, people marked key moments in their lives with ceremony and music, with solemn commitments and joyful celebrations.

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Skeptic Bible Study: Pedophilia in the Bible
.: posted Saturday, October 06, 2007 :::

A video by John Anderson

Tolerating homosexuality is the slippery slope toward approving pedophilia. Right?