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Did you hear about the state legislator who last week blasted a Lutheran minister during a committee hearing for spewing dangerous religious superstitions, and then attempted to order the minister out of the witness chair on the grounds that his Christian beliefs are "destroying what this state was built upon?"

Of course you didn't, because it didn't happen and would never happen. Not to a Christian, not to a Jew, not to a Muslim or to anyone who subscribes to any faith.

Such an attack would rightly be considered scandalously out of bounds in contemporary society.

But you probably also didn't hear about what actually did happen:

Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago) interrupted atheist activist Rob Sherman during his testimony Wednesday afternoon before the House State Government Administration Committee in Springfield and told him, "What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous . . . it's dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists!

"This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God," Davis said. "Get out of that seat . . . You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon."

Apparently it's still open season on some views of God.

Outside of the Chicago Tribune story below, which posted a transcript and the audio, Davis' repellent, un-American outburst received no attention whatsoever.

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Rep. Monique Davis to atheist Rob Sherman: `It’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists!'


The following exchange between atheist activist Rob Sherman of Buffalo Grove and Ill. Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago) took place Wednesday afternoon in the General Assembly as Sherman testified before the House State Government Administration Committee.

I know from experience that many of you will side with Davis (update -- apparently I was wrong! ), but I ask you to consider what the outcry would have been if a lawmaker had launched a similar attack on the beliefs of a religious person.

Davis: I don’t know what you have against God, but some of us don’t have much against him. We look forward to him and his blessings. And it’s really a tragedy -- it’s tragic -- when a person who is engaged in anything related to God, they want to fight. They want to fight prayer in school.

I don’t see you (Sherman) fighting guns in school. You know?

I’m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois. This is the Land of Lincoln. This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God, where people believe in protecting their children.… What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous, it’s dangerous--

Sherman: What’s dangerous, ma’am?

Davis: It’s dangerous to the progression of this state. And it’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! Now you will go to court to fight kids to have the opportunity to be quiet for a minute. But damn if you’ll go to [court] to fight for them to keep guns out of their hands. I am fed up! Get out of that seat!

Sherman: Thank you for sharing your perspective with me, and I’m sure that if this matter does go to court---

Davis: You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.

Sherman didn't budge, continued his testimony related to Gov. Rod Blagojevich's oddly misdirected $1 million grant intended for Pilgrim Baptist Church, (story) and later told me he "felt like Rosa Parks."

Here is the audio, courtesy of the Illinois Information Service.

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Comments:
OpenID Gretna said...
I'm so afraid. I want to fight this attitude, and I want to stand up for my right to NOT believe, but I'm afraid.

If I put a sign on my van, I'm afraid what my neighbors and strangers will do to it, and me.

I'm just moving from Massachusetts to Florida (not by choice), but I was just as afraid in my LIberal Cambridge as I am in Miami. I'm 67 and not as able physically as I once was. I want to speak up, I want to stop this persecution. Tell me what can I do?

Peace Gretna


Blogger AtheistToothFairy said...
I wonder if Rep. Monique Davis also wants taught in our schools, the 'science' of the Tin Man's Heart, The Scarecrow's Brain, and The Lion's Courage?

Perhaps Davis would like to pass some legislation that would make it illegal for one to choose to exist in reality alone, that one must be subservient to some form of a mythical god being.

How many fundies come rolling in here, wondering why we spend our time fighting against their biblical teachings.

I think Rep. Monique Davis is the perfect example of WHY WE MUST!!


ATF (Who thinks Davis should bring her 'evidence' of god to court, and let the courts decide if god has enough credible evidence to be part of our reality)


OpenID chuckyjesus said...
You don't have to put a sign on your van. Nobody wants you or any other freethinker to do anything which would make you feel uncomfortable and fearful. There's much one can do from right where you are sitting at your computer. If you have the resources, you could give to sites like this, or to other groups like the Freedom From Religion Foundation. You can blog. You can write letters to editors (anonymously if needed [if you know how to fake out the newspaper and not use your real name]); you can write to elected representatives via email or call. See if there's a local humanist or freethought group to join. Without campaigning for a particular Presidential candidate, I will say also that this upcoming Presidential election is crucial because Justice Stevens is about to retire and the next President will name the replacement. Right now the only thing standing in the way of overturning Rove v Wade and other landmark decisions such as Murray vs. Curlett, Engel v. Vitale, and Abington School District v. Schempp*. Think hard about who you want doing that, and then volunteer to work for that candidate. You will feel empowered. Good Luck! Report back to us on your progess, please.

*Trivia note -- I'm probably one of only a handful of people still alive who have met both Bill Murray and Ellery Schempp.


Blogger SamiB said...
So Davis is terrified that children who have been indoctrinated with the christian faith might learn an alternative belief system and thus make their own decision.

Isn't that why all those fundies are so frightened of us non-believers? We represent the working part of the brain that threatens to obliterate their fanatically coveted fantasy.

Oh those of such precarious faith!


OpenID Gretna said...
Chuckyjesus

I do all the things you mentioned, (including making a small monthly contribution to this site. I wish it could be more.), but I want to do so much more in a personal way. I have always been one to speak out and it disturbs me that I feel so afraid to continue to do so.

The idea of the sign on my van is to open up dialog with those of another opinion, and to connect with others of the same opinion.

I will check out a Miami group, though, I hadn't thought of that.

Thank you.
Peace Gretna


Blogger billybee said...
I hope that I never forget that I use to think and feel the same way Rep. Davis thinks and feels.

Through education I found my way to liberty.

On the audio (even via the transcipt) you can feel the real fear in the words of Ms. Davis. She truely believes that America is balanced on the brink of a literal lake of fire. You can almost hear a sense of panic in her voice.

She sounds desperate and perhaps even fragile. The audio especially reveals her emotions to be nearly beyond her control.

She is the dangerous one. She is angry and theologicaly justified.

But, I believe that I may hold a slightly heavier weight of responsibility to keep things from turning ugly. I can relate to her frame of mind, but she has not a clue as to mine.

I think it will be the next generation that will reap the reward of what has begun in this generation. Change is slow, but patience is evolution's greatest tool.

We can and must learn to peacefully co-exist.
It's corny but true.....


Blogger AtheistToothFairy said...
billybee said...
I think it will be the next generation that will reap the reward of what has begun in this generation.
----
Billybee,

How right you are here !!

While certain recent visiting xtians to our site, are sure we can never 'force' the elimination of the xtian god from our society, what they fail to foresee is that force won't be the element that brings this about, but rather education of our young minds will be the tool that causes it to occur.


ATF (Who doesn't rely upon prophets, to foresee this human future)


Blogger Aspentroll said...
Question:
Can Rob Sherman have this twit, Monique Davis, chastised
for her outburst? She should be made to apologize for her
attitude in that forum.
I think he certainly has the right to sue the bitch for her remarks.


Blogger dedhed said...
I just want to ask, can any of us find an email adress for this Representative? I have been looking all afternoon and even the official site for the state senate says that the email address on the site is only for the webmaster and not for any contact with the reps themselves. If we can find this, we can blow her inbox up with complaints.


Blogger Odin is better said...
gretna,
Don't be afraid, be proud. They can have their stupid jesus fishes and stuff. You have the right and obligation, as we all do to fight the good fight. Think of it this way, at least we back up our assertions with logic and scientific fact. At least we are open to all comers, any coulor, any sex, any sexual preference. Be proud and fearless and they will not touch you. It is our strength and their weakness. If we don't fight it we could end up like Germany in 39'
Fight on sister...


Blogger Ted said...
Funny she said that. She must not know that Lincoln was not a theist.


Blogger jtwinings said...
mdavis2147@aol.com
mdavis@hdsmail.state.il.us

Somebody wanted e-mails addies?


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