I know from experience that many of you will side with Davis (update -- apparently I was wrong! ), but I ask you to consider what the outcry would have been if a lawmaker had launched a similar attack on the beliefs of a religious person.
Davis: I don’t know what you have against God, but some of us don’t have much against him. We look forward to him and his blessings. And it’s really a tragedy -- it’s tragic -- when a person who is engaged in anything related to God, they want to fight. They want to fight prayer in school.
I don’t see you (Sherman) fighting guns in school. You know?
I’m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois. This is the Land of Lincoln. This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God, where people believe in protecting their children.… What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous, it’s dangerous--
Sherman: What’s dangerous, ma’am?
Davis: It’s dangerous to the progression of this state. And it’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! Now you will go to court to fight kids to have the opportunity to be quiet for a minute. But damn if you’ll go to [court] to fight for them to keep guns out of their hands. I am fed up! Get out of that seat!
Sherman: Thank you for sharing your perspective with me, and I’m sure that if this matter does go to court---
Davis: You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.
Sherman didn't budge, continued his testimony related to Gov. Rod Blagojevich's oddly misdirected $1 million grant intended for Pilgrim Baptist Church, (story) and later told me he "felt like Rosa Parks."
Here is the audio, courtesy of the Illinois Information Service.
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If I put a sign on my van, I'm afraid what my neighbors and strangers will do to it, and me.
I'm just moving from Massachusetts to Florida (not by choice), but I was just as afraid in my LIberal Cambridge as I am in Miami. I'm 67 and not as able physically as I once was. I want to speak up, I want to stop this persecution. Tell me what can I do?
Peace Gretna
Perhaps Davis would like to pass some legislation that would make it illegal for one to choose to exist in reality alone, that one must be subservient to some form of a mythical god being.
How many fundies come rolling in here, wondering why we spend our time fighting against their biblical teachings.
I think Rep. Monique Davis is the perfect example of WHY WE MUST!!
ATF (Who thinks Davis should bring her 'evidence' of god to court, and let the courts decide if god has enough credible evidence to be part of our reality)
*Trivia note -- I'm probably one of only a handful of people still alive who have met both Bill Murray and Ellery Schempp.
Isn't that why all those fundies are so frightened of us non-believers? We represent the working part of the brain that threatens to obliterate their fanatically coveted fantasy.
Oh those of such precarious faith!
I do all the things you mentioned, (including making a small monthly contribution to this site. I wish it could be more.), but I want to do so much more in a personal way. I have always been one to speak out and it disturbs me that I feel so afraid to continue to do so.
The idea of the sign on my van is to open up dialog with those of another opinion, and to connect with others of the same opinion.
I will check out a Miami group, though, I hadn't thought of that.
Thank you.
Peace Gretna
Through education I found my way to liberty.
On the audio (even via the transcipt) you can feel the real fear in the words of Ms. Davis. She truely believes that America is balanced on the brink of a literal lake of fire. You can almost hear a sense of panic in her voice.
She sounds desperate and perhaps even fragile. The audio especially reveals her emotions to be nearly beyond her control.
She is the dangerous one. She is angry and theologicaly justified.
But, I believe that I may hold a slightly heavier weight of responsibility to keep things from turning ugly. I can relate to her frame of mind, but she has not a clue as to mine.
I think it will be the next generation that will reap the reward of what has begun in this generation. Change is slow, but patience is evolution's greatest tool.
We can and must learn to peacefully co-exist.
It's corny but true.....
I think it will be the next generation that will reap the reward of what has begun in this generation.
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Billybee,
How right you are here !!
While certain recent visiting xtians to our site, are sure we can never 'force' the elimination of the xtian god from our society, what they fail to foresee is that force won't be the element that brings this about, but rather education of our young minds will be the tool that causes it to occur.
ATF (Who doesn't rely upon prophets, to foresee this human future)
Can Rob Sherman have this twit, Monique Davis, chastised
for her outburst? She should be made to apologize for her
attitude in that forum.
I think he certainly has the right to sue the bitch for her remarks.
Don't be afraid, be proud. They can have their stupid jesus fishes and stuff. You have the right and obligation, as we all do to fight the good fight. Think of it this way, at least we back up our assertions with logic and scientific fact. At least we are open to all comers, any coulor, any sex, any sexual preference. Be proud and fearless and they will not touch you. It is our strength and their weakness. If we don't fight it we could end up like Germany in 39'
Fight on sister...
mdavis@hdsmail.state.il.us
Somebody wanted e-mails addies?