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The former pastor of the Revival Center in Vincent is charged with murder in the October 2005 shooting death of his wife.

Timothy Dane Tillman, 43, was in the Shelby County Jail this evening with bond set at $500,000 after being returned from central Florida earlier in the day. He is charged with intentional murder, said Shelby County Chief Assistant District Attorney Bill Bostick.

Tillman is accused of deliberately shooting his wife, Janet Lorita Tillman, 40, at the couple's Vincent home on Oct. 26, 2005. The death was investigated by Vincent police and the Alabama Bureau of Investigation.

Tillman had contended the shooting was accidental and occurred when his shotgun accidentally fired while he was cleaning it, striking his wife in the back.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just remember jesus forgives, all this preacher has to do is ask for forgiveness and when he dies he will be in heaven with jebus.


Blogger Aspentroll said...
Gosh maybe she forgot and put his collar on "frontwards" by
mistake.


Blogger freethinker05 said...
Ok, Anonymous... (MASTER) But, may I go and murder my wife first?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
This man is a friend of mine and he was my pastor. He loved his family more than anything, he would have never done this. You don't know the complete story. We were having a turkey shoot to raise money for Katrina, they were taking the guns in and he dropped the gun and it went off, she was in front of him with guns in her hand! Tell me how can they say it was not an accident.


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Anonymous Anonymous said...
"You don't know the complete story."

True, but neither do you. I believe everyone will be shocked when and if the truth comes out.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
interesting


Anonymous katia said...
We knew him too. But I would not be as sure an anonymous. I always thought the situation was odd.


Anonymous just a thought said...
The church that he used to attend--New Life--also had another murder of a wife by a husband.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know him too and of course the sitiuation was odd.. but a murder? it's just hard to believe that, b/c my husband saw the scene the day after when he went to get some clothes for the children, who were in the house when it happended by the way, and they are older. anyway the scene matched up exactly by what happened... I will be looking at the evidence, but i say he's not guilty until I see something more. vincent is a small town police department and alot of people just think they want in the limelight... I'll be watching to see how this plays out. The woman who was shot was a wonderful person... and her daughters are torn up ove this and trying to move on in life.. its sad for them.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are all such idiots. I've known Tim for 20+ years and I've always known he was capable of this type of action. And by the way annoyomous, are the third woman in his life - after Janet and "Miss Molly" who he just married in August. I know a lot more about this than any of you will ever know. He tore many churches apart with his adultery and stealing from the church funds and his drug addictions.


Anonymous anonymous 2 said...
everyone will be shocked to see just how evil he really is!! anonymous, if you are female you must have slept with him too! check more into his sortted past. you never knew that man only what he pretended to be!!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
He threatened my life in 1997, I knew the instant I heard about the "accident" that it was no accident, it could have been me. He also threatened the life of the woman he had an affair with in the church, he would stop at nothing for control, sex or money. I feel badly for his children, they were so sweet and they are suffering.


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Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is not up to us to judge him. If he did murder his wife it will come out and he will have to answer to jesus for that, not to us. The only ones who are suffering now is his kids.


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Are you anonymous Christian posters retarded?

Holy shit!

You can't follow simple directions. That's #1. And now you say that a murderer (if that's what this guy is) only has to answer to Jesus and not to the rest of society?

What a moronic statement to make!


Anonymous ANONYMOUS 2 said...
IT MAY NOT BE UP TO US TO JUDGE BUT I SURE DONT WANT THAT LOW DOWN MURDERER OUT TO HURT EVEN MORE PEOPLE! IF HE KILLED HIS WIFE WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE WONT DO IT AGAIN? HE IS TRULY THE BIGGEST MANIPULATOR EVER!!


Anonymous whateverthen said...
forgive me. i didn't know wanting to see the evidence made me an idiot & adulterer. thanks for telling me. I loved janet though & if they proove murder, i'm all for punishmnet in this life & the one to come. i love my husband alot & if Tim would have tried to do have sex with me. I would have told it and my hubby would've freakin killed him! we don't play that crap anonymous 2.


Anonymous anonymous2 said...
he knew who he could manipulate and who he could not! even his surmons were not heart felt! he had to copy off of other preachers when he listened to their cd's. wake up people!!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
If any one has anything that would help in his guilt or innocence should be talking to the ABI.


Anonymous already know said...
why do you think he is now dumb ass!!!


Anonymous wake up people said...
did you read the news today or go to his court date today? he is so guilty!!


Anonymous discouraged said...
Since this is the second person with connections to New Life who was also connected to a murder, perhaps they should change the church's name to New Life in Prison. It seems that there is a lot of corruption within the walls of that church. Did the pastor of New Life know the kind of person this man is (since he was so close to him) and still allow him to preach or was he just too stupid to check his background? Someone should really search to find out what all goes on over there. There have been many people leave after finding corrupt things going on in the finances in particular. Can anyone be trusted?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
saw the latest developemnet today... so did Molly actually say that she thought he was gone to serve in the navy? so its a proven fact that he was married to both women at the same time? i read the article and that seems to be what they are saying...


Anonymous discouraged said...
It is my understanding that he did not marry Molly until August of this year. He was just going to see her when she lived in Washington, telling his congregation and Janet that he was on a church retreat. Supposedly he was telling Molly that he was in the Navy to explain his absences. Molly sent a letter to the judge asking for Tim to be released on bond because she didn't see him as a threat to anyone. Seems to me she HAD to know he was married at least after she moved to Florida with him because surely his daughters and family had mentioned Janet. Why would she go ahead and marry him knowing that he was married while she was still in Washington? Could she be a part of all of it? Hmmm.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
yeah i was in that congregation and he did go on some trips.. its been awhile but i recall 2 for sure.. but there could've been more... i didn't keep up with that really. more and more folks are starting to wonder if he really did this... i saw him after it happened.. it was on a wed. night right before church when it all went down... he was SO upset... if he did murder her... he should've gone to Hollywood... he's a great actor! and BOTH kids were in the house when it happened... i guess we'll see... i cannt WAIT to see the evidence in this case! If i was Molly... i'd be a little concerned that he might find somebody else and kill me too...by the way janet's brother was at the funeral and he was VERY angry and said the whole time Tim did this on purpose... everybody jsut figured he was upset... but maybe he was on to something afterall...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
anon2.. about his sermons not being heartfelt... you know i said that all along... its like he would get really passionate,but it always seemed like an act... like he was preaching from his head but not his heart... i'm glad somebody saw that too... i jsut never could really open my heart to him as my pastor... i loved janet though... she was an awesome person... if he killed her... i hope he pays up!


Anonymous anon.. whateverthen. said...
okay i jsut read the report and it said that he pleaded not guilty by reason of mental defect or disease... i'm sorry but if i was really not guilty... i would jsut plead not guilty...i would not try to say i was mental either... if your innocent. your innocent! so i think he did it.


Anonymous discouraged said...
Yeah, on one hand he's saying it was an accident and then also saying he had a mental defect. Which was it? Give me a break!


Anonymous whateverthen said...
yeah dicouraged.. confusion and manipulation seem to be the way gets it done... i jsut hope the whole truthc is uncovered... i would never want an innocent man to be found guilty, but it goes both ways for me... if he killed janet on purpose... i hope its revealed and his tactics exposed... what gets me is now Molly has to know the truth... and she sticked by him... even if he didn't murder janet...which he probably did.. he still lied to her the whole time..wake up Molly!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think you are right about New LIfe. There have been some question, so I am told, about the church moeny being used for personal use. Credit card abuse. etc.

Is Tim Tillman still in jail? When does he go to trial?


Anonymous vincentscout said...
Tim is still in the Shelby County Jail--you can go to their website and see his mugshot. Looks pretty rough these days.
Tim did not appeal to me at all--but Janet was a wonderful person. I knew her from church and school and she was a hardworking wife and mother and did not deserve a husband like him.
He will pay for what he did to her, remember he's in jail and has been for months and Big Bubba in the Big House likes pretty boys.


Anonymous think and find out said...
if any of you are from the church where he so called preached find out the real reason he left and why he is no longer the pastor! find out why he really left minnasota! you people only new what he wanted you to know!!


Anonymous discouraged said...
Please tell us why he left. Having a hard time finding much information. Does anyone know when his trial begins?


Anonymous kek said...
Its sad. He was a pastor at our church l995,in minnesota.God knows the truth.Just keep the family in prayer.


Anonymous Minnesotan- I'll explain said...
When he was in Minnesota in 1995 or so, I can't remember the exact year, he pastored Parkway Church of God. I only went there briefly and I thought Tim was very nice, very charismatic and sweet to everyone. But I also saw he flirted horribly with a girl there and it made me sick. Janet never really smiled and didn't seem to let anyone in, she seemed very deflated and sad. It came out that he had been indeed having an affair with the girl he flirted with, she seemed much younger than he was, probably at least 10 years younger. She confessed the affair and they ousted him and then they finally took seriously the accusations of the financial officer who had been seeing money start to go missing. Not sure how much but it was a lot of money he stole in addition to the affair. I never saw the girl again after that and the church basically fell apart. I never thought he'd go be a pastor again, how COULD he after that but apparently churches don't check the backgrounds of people very well. We found out after this all went down that our state leader found out he had come to Minnesota from a church in Florida where he had an affair there too! So apparently the church here did not check him out either. All of this could be verified I'm sure by contacting the Minnesota Church of God, they were definitely involved with the aftermath and know the whole story. When I heard the story about him accidentally killing Janet I burst into tears and just knew, he killed her. I was just sick thinking that he was going to get away with it. I was relieved to hear he was arrested, and of course, not at all surprised to hear he had been having yet another affair on Janet. I have no idea how the woman he recently married could possibly stay by his side, she must not know any of his past or choose to disbelieve it. She is going to be sorry she wasted her time on him but she must be totally snowed, he had a way about him that could totally charm you and you'd believe just about anything. I was snowed as far as thinking he was a good pastor and annointed etc.

All of that is fact, none of it rumor, I have heard TONS of rumors but did not include any here as they are unsubstantiated and just hear-say.
I am sorry for all the people he hurt, he truly is a monster.


Anonymous jax fl said...
please email me! im a family member that would really like to talk with you!! my email address is slea1968@aol.com. no names will be mentioned and i would love to give you my phone number.


Anonymous Rachel said...
I too was in the MN church and saw the devastation that Hurricane Tillman left in his wake. I had been there for 3 years before Tillman was there and we had a wonderful close knit church family I haven't seen anywhere else. Within 2 years, the church was shook to it's foundation, he had torn friendships apart with deceit and outright lies, caused division with the leadership throughout, tarnished the name of God and our local church. His reaction to getting caught was anger towards the whistle blowers and threats against their personal safety, no repentance whatsoever. Around a year later, he was arrested and convicted of Sexual Assault while working at the local jail. He offered a woman a ride home and then pulled into a church parking lot and assaulted her, then said he was a cop and threatened her if she told. They found Police stuff stolen from the jail in his trunk when they arrested him. It is public record and did serve a short amount of time for it. He is a VERY dangerous man and deserves to be locked up for a long time!!! I knew in my gut when I heard about Janet that he did it, I have praying that the truth would come to light and justice would finally come to him.
My email is rachelkennedy1@msn.com if anyone is from Minnesota and was there then or if anyone has any questions for me. I was there and have facts, not just rumors.


Anonymous Thoughtful said...
Interesting - that so many have problems seeing and understanding the true nature of a single person with a simple human life - yet; have no problem discussing the nature of a universal deity at length in a wood plank building with a cemetary cross on top.

To expose predators requires logic and unbiased inspection of the facts; which are ignored and denounced by religious leaders and followers, such that the pastor gets to keep their word play job, and followers get to escape reality.

Only, 'after' the sheep see a few slaughtered, do they want to involve themselves - but not, to pursue logic as a means to live a healthy life facing reality, but as a mere temporary necessity to protect themselves.

Once the sheep feel safe, they return to the life-styly that exposed them originally.

One, may ponder for a moment at who is more responsible for such a travesty; the authority figure behind the pulpit whose profession benefits from the non-use of logic, the followers who select their religious leader based on non-logical terms, i.e., appearance, charisma, emotion, little voices, sensations, 'faith', good-ol'-boy network, etc., or - the arbitrary system of religion that has no rules or logical guidance, because 'faith' is the primary instrument of the profession itself.

Followers invest money and time, in the person they prop up as pastor, in order to receive a return on their investment (ROI), one can only wonder what such a 'return' looks like; building and protecting a good christian family's reputation and name, i.e., wedding daughters in white who are known to not be virgins, vouching as character witnesses in court for followers who commit crimes, giving positive eulogies for criminal miscreants suggesting they are in heaven in order to protect the family namesake and their personal paycheck (even if the paycheck is in the form of community prestige).

Quite frankly, I have yet to hear a negative eulogy - it's all rosy, fake, and pre-paid.

In medieval days it was important to get the blessing of the local religious leader, for almost every major endeavor, after all, it was the church that invented the ceremonial wedding and western economic system in order to control followers (who they married and where they worked, etc), etc., else the family was considered rebellious and abused by the community and church.

Honestly, it's not that some don't share concern for a fellow citizen losing their life to a religious parasite; but, entire nations have lost citizens due to religious parasites and blind followers. Blind followers being; those who elect people to positions for personal gain (that would be all followers who elect, support and pay tithes to a pastor, etc), and without any other means to determine professional credibility, because that requires some level of logic. Just to ensure we understand "credibility", a PhD in interpretive literature does not make a person educated - nor one of virtue and wisdom.

Everything religious is reactive; a pastor cheats and kills, and 'then' the law & followers figure it out, in theory; followers will die, and only then do they find out if they are 'truly' saved or not.

Everything religious, forces a follower to seek understanding after events unfold - and based on personal interpretation.

In such a religious system, one can only honestly propose that the underlying principle of religion itself - faith - is the very factor that will continue to "foster" and "facilitate" ongoing trauma to humanity - as it has for thousands of years.

While there are many religious followers who seem genuinely appalled at the behavior of this religious leader; they do not denounce:
-The means by which he came into power at the local church
-The faith based system that facilitated and protected his true nature

Such sentiment is hollow, and self-serving. Instead of addressing the real problem of unregulatable faith based religions, followers are more than eager to offer up their religious leader sacrifice while suggesting he was never really a true christian in order to protect their faith based investment.


Anonymous kek said...
went to parkway in mn the pastor before was pastor webb.started their when he was the pastor.in january 1991.then much later the church gets a new pastor then things fall apart.we have a new pastor and our church is growing.


Anonymous discouraged said...
Thoughtful, you have some interesting opinions. Most people do have trouble understanding human nature. However, the Bible tells us that this is a fallen world and that all humans have sinned.

Christianity does have rules and guidelines which are given them in the Bible. The Old Testament was full of them. People were unable to fulfill all of them because of their sinful nature, so God sent his son, Jesus, so that we all might have the opportunity to receive the forgiveness and grace he offered us...IF we choose to do so. Unfortunately, many choose otherwise. That does not mean that if you receive his grace you can go around killing your spouse because you have a free ride to Heaven. God tells us that if we truly love Him, we will be obedient to His laws. If you truly love God, I don't think you will kill your spouse. A true Christian seeks wholeheartedly to please God and love Him in everything they do.

Regarding Medieval times and beyond, you are correct. Many have lost lives because of religious persecution and religious parasites. There were inquests with charges of heresy, kings and entire empires were excommunicated from the church because of political disagreements, money, or different religious opinions, etc. However, those who committed these injustices were obviously not living by the teachings of Jesus, they may have been using God's name, but they were only following their own greedy, sinful desires. In my opinion, that is exactly what Tim Tillman was doing.

You say that many followers are appalled, but do not denounce the means by which this man came into power in the church, nor do they denounce the faith-based system that protected him. You say that they are offering this man up as a sacrifice saying he was never a true Christian only to protect their religious investment. That may be true for some, but I believe that most are smarter than that. The Bible says to be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove. I believe that those who see this man for what he truly is, realize that he was using God's name for his own selfish means. That IS appalling. I think anyone who sees that is also appalled that the church leaders were not wise enough to check up on him before allowing him to become a leader. Those who continue to protect this parasite are as guilty as he. However, denouncing our faith in God is never an option.

I think that Christians should wake up and not be just stupid sheep following whatever human leads them. They should be wise enough to search for the truth (or lack thereof) in everyone. There are many good, honest people in the world, but even they have a sinful nature.

One thing I have learned is to not put my faith in people. God uses good people to do His work, but ultimately, faith should be in Him.


Anonymous kek said...
How long will Tillman be in jail? Or will he get out in the near feature something just wondering.From minnesota.i


Anonymous vincentscout said...
From what I understand he was denied bail and will not be getting out. He must have been considered a flight risk. The only way I see him out, is if he's not convicted. Anxiously awaiting this trial. I hope if he's guilty, he gets what he deserves.


Anonymous kek said...
When will Tillman go on trail just wondering when that will be from minnesota.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Tim is a very dangerous person. He is also a flight risk. The girls are defending him, and would do anything to see him released. It is a known fact one of the girls has recently just returned from Costa Rica. this country has no extradition agreements with the USA.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
The daughter did not JUST return from Costa Rica--it was over a year and a half ago and was a mission trip where she went to learn Spanish. That is the problem...people post things that are only 1% factual. The justice system will run its course. Let's let that happen without so much hearsay and embellishment, shall we?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
His daughters are sweet girls, but they believe ANYTHING he says. They are going to be absolutely crushed when everything comes out at trial; and it all will. This man is a monster. He thinks that he is brilliant and got away with murder. Think again Tim, or whatever your name is. Somebody should look into that, how many aliases did he have? I love that he is now claiming that he and Janet had agreed to a divorce. Sure they had. He is a murdering liar. Molly is probably an accomplice. If not, then why is she still with him? Is she that pathetic? Those girls will need some hard core therapy when they learn the truth about their father. They need to ask themselves, if he is innocent, then why is he pleading not gulity by mental defect? When this whole story comes out, people will be left shaking there heads. Every secret will be exposed. I personally can't wait. Minnesota people, tell us more. Florida people, what can you say about when he was there?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
anyone want to ask anything.im from the last church he preached at
vincent revival center


Anonymous Anonymous said...
This man has been in trouble with numerous churches. It started in Florida, then followed with Minnesota. His own Mom and stepdad know what a con he is, he managed to con them before. I think "Mom" has always been his defender and enabler from the teenage years and up. She's so ignorant -- for months all she was worried about was Tim's deceased father's family not finding out about any of this..... wake up lady it's national news -- it's not just a nasty "family secret or rumor" Tim has been a problem to his family and Janet's family for years. Face it people - call a spade a spade - it is what it is.


I called Alabaman and found out that TIllman is out on 1 mill bail. I am betting his family must have helped with that. I guess he is in FL awaiting trial. I hope he is wearing an ankle bracelet or something, I wouldn't put it past him to disappear right before the trial starts and he is found guilty. I wonder if they can prove anything with the new wife. No woman with a brain would put up with all those lies, then marry hin and stand with him while he is charged with murdering his first wife so he can marry her. Something major stinks there. I want to know more about MN and the last church he pastored. Anyone?


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