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These Young Preachers Say They Save Souls

Seven-year-old Samuel Boutwell is an outgoing and well-spoken second grader. He loves to play with his dogs and play soccer, but he loves something else even more.

Samuel is a Baptist preacher at a church in his home town of Brookhaven, a small town in southwestern Mississippi. He also preaches outside in front of the local Wal-Mart, and has preached on the road in Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Washington D.C., and the streets of New York City.

Like many, Samuel said he became a preacher after he was "saved" by Jesus -- he just happened to be 3 years old at the time. "After I got saved, I knew I could try to reach more people to try to get saved," Samuel said. His sin against God? Disobeying his mom. And so the boy turned to Jesus.

When asked to describe God, Samuel said, "Can you show me a building that didn't have a builder, could you show me a painting that didn't have a painter? Because nobody made God. He just exists." Samuel is home-schooled and fed a steady diet of Scripture, but his father, Kendall Boutwell, a born-again lay preacher himself, said the idea of preaching was all Samuel's.

'The Power of God'

Soon after he was saved, Samuel said God spoke to him by helping him come up with things to preach about. "When I asked to preach, right when I think I can preach, God gives me something right there," he said.

Randall Balmer, an Episcopal priest and preacher and a professor of religion at Barnard College, wondered if Samuel's words truly come from divine inspiration. "Is he merely parroting some line&that he gets from a parent, or from a minister, or is it something that comes from the wellspring of the soul?" Balmer asked.

Balmer is the author of a dozen books on religion (his next book, "God in the White House: A History -- 1960-2004," will be published in spring 2008). He said that kids simply don't have the life experience to preach. "I believe that one's calling as a minister arises out of the crucible of one's experience? there's a certain maturity that comes with that, a certain understanding of the faith that comes with that."

But Samuel's father believes his son gets his understanding from God. "I know he's divinely inspired&if you listen to the messages, the different ones on the different subjects, yes, he's definitely divinely inspired," said TK. He also believes that his son is not too young to preach.

Another child minister, 9-year-old Terry Durham bills himself as the "little man of God." He's a travel-worn veteran compared to Samuel Boutwell. Terry has preached in cities around the country since he was only 4 years old. But he doesn't stop at just preaching. His grandmother, Pastor Sharone Monroe, said that "ever since he was a baby he was layin' hands and praying for people."

Monroe raised Terry and taught him much of what he knows about preaching and touching people to take away their pain. "When I touch the people, I feel God's hands come into my hands," said Terry, "and it's so exciting to see God move in the midst of their problems."

Terry calls himself a prophet, not a healer, and adults seem to flock to him. He disagrees with the idea that he might be too young for preaching, saying "people say Jesus started at the age of 12. And they say that my grandmother is pushing me, but it's not my grandmother, it's the power of God that's pushing me."

Too Young for Some Topics?

Samuel Boutwell has been taught to take the Bible at its word. When it comes to the after-life, he takes a hard line. He believes that anyone who is not saved by Jesus Christ will go to hell -- no exceptions. "I wish he had taken his Bible and read Matthew 7:1, where Jesus calls on his followers not to judge, lest they be judged," Balmer said.

Balmer objects to such a young boy preaching and finds it "offensive to the faith."

"This Christian faith is for me, and for millions of other people, a source of meaning, a source of truth, and to have it reduced to a kind of circus sideshow, I find deeply offensive."

Samuel often preaches outside abortion clinics. He said he knows what an abortion is and that he's seen pictures of abortions. "Women going in and they kill their child. I'll tell you the same thing I told my daddy one time: If they don't want to have their child they can give it to someone else," he said.

When asked if he knows how babies are made, Samuel said that he doesn't.

Balmer believes that no matter what ones view of abortion, it's wrong to have a child preaching about a topic he couldn't possibly understand fully. "It seems to me that the child is being used as a kind of political prop, for a particular political ideology." But Samuel's father argues that the boy is simply preaching the law of the Bible. Samuel is clearly articulate and mature beyond his years. Which is why it's surprising when, in a candid moment, the fact that he is just a child becomes obvious.

When asked what makes him want to preach, Samuel replied, "You're gonna have to ask my daddy that, I don't know."

 
Comments:
Blogger Brother Jeff said...
Wow, that's really sad. These two kids never had a chance to avoid the brainwashing and indoctrination of religion and have a normal life. Can a 7-year old comprehend the eternity of suffering that he believes his "loving" god will sentence all non-Christians to? Even adults can't do that. FOREVER is a long time. Hopefully, the day will come when they will come to their senses, but the reality is that that probably won't happen before they have wasted the only childhood they will ever have preaching bullshit.


Anonymous Chucky Jesus said...
To me, this is kiddy porn...nothing more...nothing less.


Blogger Monk said...
It would be interesting to see a study that compares the adult lives of kids like these to child stars from hollywood. This whole scenario just reeks of future psychoses for these kids (if they don't already have them).

These kids' guardians are behind this...I don't care what anyone says. And this is tantamount to child abuse.


Blogger Aspentroll said...
You guys said it all. Brainwashing and usory of
children to prolong a bullshit
myth.


Anonymous exchhcer said...
If you ever get the chance see the film "Marjoe," starring Marjoe Gortner. He was a 'child preacher' as well and the film exposes the tricks and lies of pentecostalism, as well as the use of his parents of their 'child prodigy.' You might remember Marjoe as the star of "Food of the Gods," and the cop who stalked Victoria Principal in "Earthquake." Anyway, that movie talks about children who 'preach the gospel' and how abusive that is. No child has any business "preaching"! (or any adult either, IMHO)


Blogger .:webmaster:. said...
An article on Marjoe can be viewed by clicking here.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Come on "from the mouth of babes" God use the simple to confound the wise......unless you become like a child, you will never enter heaven!!!!!!! Repent for the lord jebuz is at hand. Funny, looks like a chasmatic and conservative little preachers, if they want to impress me I want to see the white kid preach like the balck one, and vice versa, then maybe I will believe it's divine, and not from the natural upbringing of their parents or grandma's !!


Blogger BMorality said...
This whole thing makes me so sad I don't even know where to start. These irresponsible parents who lead their children to perform like this are blind and immoral. Two more wasted and brainwashed childhoods...I hope they recover...someday.


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Blogger CSI Addict said...
This is unbelievable. These kids can't think for themselves. Why would anyone want them to think for anyone else?


Anonymous Jimbo said...
These Parents should be ashamed of themselves!! This is absolutely outrageous! These kids are way too young to be preaching such a horrible mind virus at such a young age.. Stuff like this causes kids to grow up to be self hating crack addicts! And I thought little league parents were bad... Geesh!!


Anonymous Larry said...
WM Did you get this article off the Onion? LOL Because I can't stop laughing! Oh Gosh like the Previous Posters I'm also in completely saddened by this at the same time! These poor kids!


Anonymous Tommy said...
Well where else but the good ole USA where the majority of people believe in invisible beings and ghosts, angels, demons, etc.

Sounds like they are getting ready to replace the Revs. Graham, Falwell, Robertson, Hinn, Hagee, etc.


Blogger Astreja said...
Sickening and tragic.

May both those poor little kids break free of their brainwashing and go on to successful careers far, far away from their cults.


Blogger SpaceMonk said...
Even as a christian I would have been embarrassed to sit through a sermon preached by a kid.
Do people really feel 'edified' by anything they say...? or is it just "Oh, how cute..."


Blogger .:webmaster:. said...
This story is not from The Onion. It's from ABC News. Unfortunately, it's no joke.


Anonymous trancelation said...
Okay, I'm taking bets now: which one will grow up to be a closet homosexual secretly abusing drugs, and which one will grow up to be a womanizer secrety abusing drugs? Come on, people, bets are on, bets are on.


Anonymous trancelation said...
Oop, we also have one more bet, people: which one will molest a child first? Bets are on, bets are on.


Blogger Rob. said...
Question: Which is more patheitc: the fact that these kids have been brainwashed into preaching like they know something (instead of doing it because mom and dad actually show them attention when they preach) OR the fact that qrown adults are taking their spiritual advice from kids only a few years removed from wearing diapers?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
While I believe that these children's guardians should encourage them to experience lives as children before moving into the profession of preaching, I also am reminded how God can use anyone, anywhere, no matter their age, experience or education. Why shouldn't we believe that God is bigger than years spent on earth?


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thanks for the Marjoe link.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Do not despair.

Remember, a candle flame flickers violently just before it dies.

We are seeing the death throes of Christianity in America. Or at least its excesses.

Either that or I am completely wrong and this is just the beginning of a complete escalation into something even far worse, like a theocracy in which every child that DOESN´T preach is suspect.

-Leonard (worried) :(


Blogger twincats said...
There is a long history of child preachers in the Baptist church; something I never understood.

The kids enjoy the attention from and power over adults they get and the parents enjoy the money the lil' preachers make so you can just bet the faithful will have many ways to rationalize this phenomenon.


Blogger fjell said...
When asked what makes him want to preach, Samuel replied, "You're gonna have to ask my daddy that, I don't know."

It is hard to dream of a more pathetic reply to this question - or, on the other hand, one that seems to answer it so fully.

fjell


Blogger freethinker05 said...
I've seen little fuckers, like these, preach on tv before, and it makes me want to take a belt to their asses.


Blogger Alexandra said...
Wasn't Harry A. Ironside (famous Baptist preacher) a child preacher for a time?

It's an unusual trend.


Blogger .:webmaster:. said...
Old "Ironsides" was known as the "boy preacher." -- Wikipedia


Blogger hereticzero said...
Anyone wanting to indoctrinate always start with the youngsters first. These poor kids will grow up to be loud-mouthed Jerry Falwell-type of an asshole. The govt. can shutdown psychic friends but they are powerless against real honest to god bullshit hands-laying faith-healing fraud? The best way to tell there is no god is to just look at how those poor kids are dressed! It oughta be a sin!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
4 year old preacher? WoW!!!
just when i think i seen and heard it all, some crap like this shows up. I think that a century from now this will be a crime.


Blogger Gordon said...
This is nothing new.

It has been going on for generations:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marjoe


Blogger Andrew Hawkins said...
Their sermons must be for the non-intellectual Christians. Of course, I make the assumption that there are sermons given by adults for intellectual Christians. It's only an assumption because I've yet to hear one.

Children are shaped to believe what they are told, ironically by evolution. Children who didn't do what they were told, i.e. 'don't wander away from the cave where predators prowl' would die out.

The evolutionary theory of their behaviour will go above the heads of the children. Also, the parents won't be able to understand it.

With that in mind isn't it the right of a parent to bring their children up how they see fit. Yes, it is with a few caveats. They must not be abused and the law of their country must be upheld. Religious ideas in the hands of an under-formed mind can amount to a form of child abuse. Who amongst us can say that informing a child that they will spend an eternity in pain and fire is not a form of child abuse. I believe what is needed here is a shielding of a child from religious ideas before a certain age.

That age should be when they are able to form conclusions based on evidence. If this were true then religion would die out.

Do we not shield children from other (dangerous) ideas, such as alcohol and sex until they are old enough to understand? Why isn't religion included as one of these?

Are there any Christians reading this. Go on tell us what you think?


Blogger Monk said...
Andrew,

I'm an atheist and not a christian, but I'm afraid I can't agree with you completely. For instance, stating that "...what is needed here is a shielding of a child from religious ideas before a certain age (emphasis added)" sounds to me little better than the idea in some protestant sects of "the age of accountability," where a child is considered innocent and sinless until he or she is old enough to recognize right from wrong.

There is some validity to this doctrine and to your idea, because there are certain things that children should be shielded from until they have reached a certain stage of development. But therein lies the point that I would dispute.

Children/people develop at very different speeds. Trying to fix a certain numerical age on which a child should learn something is impractical and could be dangerous. Some children would be unnecessarily stifled, while others would be exposed far too soon. Further, to make a subject taboo until a certain age would do nothing more than to encourage a child's more enlightened peers to undercut the parents and other authority figures by letting the cat of out the bag in an uncontrolled and unsupervised manner. As an example, I recall how I learned about sex...from my peers...YEARS before either my parents or school officials broached the subject.

In short, knowledge can be a form of rebellion for children. Religious knowledge and participation could become nothing more than another means by which a child could rebel against authority. To borrow a phrase from Star Wars, "the more you tighten your grip...the more that will slip through your fingers." It would be like taking one step forward, two steps back. The more you regulate something, the more power you tend to give it.

No, the answer is not to institute a law or regulation governing when a child can learn about a subject. The answer is to de-mystify religion by making information readily avaiable, being forthright about what we know and what we don't know about the universe and god, and refusing to tolerate the absurdities of the fundamentalist extremists of ALL religions. Don't take MORE power away from parents to raise their children. Educate these parents and give them more freedom to pass life experiences on to their children.


Blogger eel_shepherd said...
These li'l Tykes Of Theism are consumer goods. They're not about themselves, the little bonsai blowhards, any more than JonBenet Ramsay was about herself. I bet they'd be big in Japan, where they have a real feel for the grotesqueries of scale (sumo wrestlers, wristwatch televisions, etc.); maybe shouldn't be giving the parents ideas, if they ever read this. I'd love to see a meeting of Marjoe Goertner and one, or preferably many, of these under-age royal pains.

The reason I know that these little mutants are about their consumers (would you like fries with that?) is that the consumers will only enjoy them in one setting; they will not seek out financial guidance from them or consult them on the blueprints of some invention idea that they're working on at the moment. Why not? Because they're, umm, kids; human kittens, commercially viable ones, for now, who, stated squarely, really know bugger all about bugger all.


OpenID redeemed99 said...
I think it's a shame that people who claim to be followers of the All knowing, All powerful (if they are truly followers that is!)and not believe that truly, "...All things are possibe..." as the Bible itself states..In Joel 2:28 it reads, "And it shall come to pass afterward,that I will pour out My Spirit upon ALL flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy..." This is the time that He is doing just that!! Shame on you all that don't really know and recognize what the Lord is doing right now!! You need to do this, read II Timothy 2:15 and apply it!!


Blogger stronger now said...
"Shame on you all that don't really know and recognize what the Lord is doing right now!!"

Oh piss off.


Blogger boomSLANG said...
Shame on you all that don't really know and recognize what the Lord is doing right now!!

What's a shame, is that you will spend every waking second of the only life you'll ever have, believing a lie.


Blogger AtheistToothFairy said...
redeemed99 wrote:
... "And it shall come to pass afterward,that I will pour out My Spirit upon ALL flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy..." This is the time that He is doing just that!!
---
Hey Deemed-Naive #99,

Oh, I guess god is giving away a really cool prize then.
Well, I can do the same, oh Deemed one.

Please send in your 'proof of purchase', that your god is "doing all that", along with 666 box tops from your Fruit Loops favorite breakfast cereal.
In return, we will send you (in easy to digest--comic book format) the Beginners Guide To Reality Cookbook.

Here are some examples of included topics/recipes:

1. HOT Spices you can make from Powered Devil Horns.
2. That old exorcism favorite, Pea Soup for a Stiff Neck.
3. How to be a good "Host" at a "Communion" Party.
4. True Secret Confessions from Deluded Christians.
5. How to get out Wine stains from your Jesus Robe
6. How to make Pickled Tongues for the Holy Roller Clan.
7. The Virgin Mary on Burnt Toast: Anyone can make this Holy breakfast delight.
8. How to stop germs from Evolving on your kitchen counter, in no time at all
9. Stone Soup: Use it while hot, to stone all those nasty Sabbath sinners.
10. How to make your own Flintstone Vitamins for your backyard stray Dinosaur.

If you act now, we'll send absolutely free, our famous "Pillar of Salt" Pepper Shaker


ATF (Who is looking for more ideas to add to this hot selling book)


Blogger Astreja said...
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Blogger Astreja said...
redeemed99 (a few stamps short of a booklet) whined: "I think it's a shame that people who claim to be followers of the All knowing..."

Uh, wrong website.

"'And it shall come to pass afterward,that I will pour out My Spirit upon ALL flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy...' This is the time that He is doing just that!!"

Já, right. Got any proof for that god of yours?

Those kids are being abused by adults who have indoctrinated them with bullshit beliefs. My wish is that both of them turn apostate and walk away from the church forever before they reach the age of majority.

"Shame on you all that don't really know and recognize what the Lord is doing right now!!"

Shame on *you* for being so fucking stupid that you actually think that a blogful of EX-Christians gives a rat's ass about Bible quotations. The real issue is the fate of those poor kids. Shake that dust off them feet and boogie on out of here, pronto.


Blogger AtheistToothFairy said...
Astreja wrote to redeemed99:
Uh, wrong website
---
Astreja,

I doubt the redeemer will ever come back to trade in their 99 god delusion stamps for a book of reality?
I mean, if this xtian didn't ever realize they were on a EX xtian website, what's the chances they book-marked this page they wrote a comment on.

What a pity to, as I wanted to know how many "shame" stamps I could get from them, that I might use to buy my very first talking snake.

Astreja, did you ever wonder how one can "pour out a spirit"?
I guess these spirits must be like the Genie in a Bottle trick, yes?

ATF (Who is off to rub his spirit bottle, to release his personal genie)


Blogger Astreja said...
Pouring out spirit? Great idea, ATF!

(wanders downstairs and pours Herself two fingers of Glenfiddich)


Blogger AtheistToothFairy said...
Astreja wrote:
Great idea, ATF! (wanders downstairs and pours Herself two fingers of Glenfiddich
---
Astreja,

After you drank the two fingers of Glenfiddich, did you happen to notice any genie's around?
These bottle genie's seem to be just as illusive as the xtian god.


ATF (Who thinks one can get their genie wishes granted, far more often than god prayers)


Blogger Astreja said...
(goes over to the cabinet in Her dining room and takes long, hard look at a now half-empty bottle of Scotch) Nope, no genies here, ATF. Must've gotten out when I cracked the seal on the bottle.

But I foresee a bottle of Green Chartreuse in the not-too-distant future, and shall check for genies there, too.

In the meantime, we do seem to have confirmed the existence of drinkable spirits. And self-fulfilling prophesies by Those who like to consume them.


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