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From Wired Science:

YouTube has banned a group called the Rational Response Squad after it complained its videos were being taken down due to spurious DMCA requests from creationists.

The takedown followed copyright requests sent by Creation Science Evangelism Ministries, an organization founded by currently-imprisoned tax evader Kent Hovind. The Squad says the clips comprise material that is either public domain, covered by fair use, or entirely self-produced.

This again highlights a central problem with the DMCA, namely that it forces takedowns without any kind of review, and puts the burden on proof on the "defendant" to show that its material is non-infringing. But to ban people for protesting when the process has been used illegitimately is something entirely different. The creationist ministry's own website said that "none of the materials ... are copyrighted, so feel free to copy these and distribute them freely."

Looks like someone at the YouTube control center doesn't like to think about Satan's old bones.


Over the last couple of days, CSEM has been changing its website, retrospectively adding copyrights to its material.



More on this at RichardDawkins.Net
 
Legitimate copying for the purpose of editoralizing, critiquing (even in satire) is expressly ALLOWED.

The fact that we have a law that says, if you tamper with something you have a right to quote for the purpose of critique, we will still label your activities criminal, is idiotic.

Jeers on Creationists for attacking the method the critique comes from, and not attack the message on its merits/problems.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well the Rational Response squad are backi on youtube now, having sucessfully contested the DMCA, and thanks to the rash of hovind-related "download & reupload" videos there's now more hovind-slam out there than ever before.

Booyah, motherfucker.


Blogger Left of Center said...
During this series of event I reposted the RRS's video releases and wrote on their behalf. Many other users were suspended too. The CSE Ministry's own site and videos even said that none of the works were copywritten. Hovind and his son broke the law by making false claims related to DMCA. On YouTube I'm Yukkione. Also:
http://o2d.blogspot.com/


Blogger twincats said...
rob. said: "Jeers on Creationists for attacking the method the critique comes from, and not attack the message on its merits/problems."

Creationists can't defend their ideas on their merits because there are none.

All they have in their arsenal are dirty tricks, deceptions, quote mines and outright lies.

I'm glad they're being forced to play by the rules once again, but they'll keep resorting to their old ways ASAP, count on it.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hahahahahahaha!!!

As if athesits don't try to silence their opponents.

Call the FFRF, they are always trying to sue someone into oblivion.

I wonder how much money they make off that?

Must be a chunk...Dan Barkers has been at it for 20 plus years.

They aren't living off of 20 dollar donations I bet.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous,

Let's assume for the moment that you are right, that atheists try to silence their opponents using clandestine practices (which, in fact, is what you're inferring by your comment). If that is the case, should not the onus be on the faithful to "rise above" the dishonesty and conduct themselves in an honorable fashion? After all, they are the ones claiming to have superior morality and be serving a righteous cause. How is engaging in fraud righteous? Or are the faithful only righteous when it suits them... and when it doesn't, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander," is perfectly acceptable?

Horseman


Blogger Emanuel Goldstein said...
I accept your assumption that I am right.

And you are quite correct, the faithful thing to do is rise above it and turn the other cheek.

Of course, I do not claim to be that good...I am merely pointing out atheist duplicity, which you have admitted.


Blogger eel_shepherd said...
The Anonymous Chortler (and your externally-imposed username is in the works & will be ready soon) sprayed this through his nose onto his keyboard:

"...Hahahahahahaha!!!
As if athesits don't try to silence their opponents.
Call the FFRF,[etc]..."

They're not trying to "silence" anyone; they're just trying to pry the fundies' ever-greedy fingers off the publicly funded megaphone, such as the school system and the currency, etc. As far as they're concerned, Xtians can knock themselves out in the churches and even in the streets.


Blogger Huey said...
Anonymous said:

"Call the FFRF, they are always trying to sue someone into oblivion.

I wonder how much money they make off that?

Must be a chunk...Dan Barkers has been at it for 20 plus years."

You would know if you were a member. They send out such information to their people every year. And I'll tell you this: it ain't what you think!


Blogger Dogmeat said...
I have NEVER seen an atheist group conspire to censor religion, ever. Yes there have been court cases for religious equality, but groups like the ACLU have also taken cases in FAVOUR of the Christian church. It's all about freedom of speech.

Has anyone taken a good look at the Christian channels on YouTube? Many of them have "pending approval" set up on their comments so they can filter out the criticism and leave only the fellow believers with their glowing comments. The DMCAs are just a new offensive for them, along with spam flagging which has cropped up in the last few days.


Anonymous Humanfree said...
Bastards teocons, bastards evangelicals, bastards fu****g nutshead which trying to shut up who have right...You never will rule the world!And if a god did exist..he didn't permit this!Thx to "god", today still many peoples live using their brains and their mental capability..i knwo you dream a god-dictatorship, but fortunately , you'll never have it.

May the shame and the blood of the millions people, died and suffering thx to religions, can suffocate you. Fu****g bastards...


Anonymous trancelation said...
Christian, to Non-Christians:

"Waah, I is be a Christians and I is am be hatedededed by alls no-Christian befores they are hatings the truths and these is be a Christians country and when no-Christianseseses tryings to arguesify they pointed why that is anti-Christian bigotry!"

Me, to All Christians Addressing all Non-Christians:

Zzzz.

Give me a break.

I, for one, am sick and tired of Christians playing the Two Wrongs Make A Right card. No, Christians, you are not pointing out hypocritical behavior in atheists, despite the fact that you think you are. It's a lovely fantasy, but like all fantaies, is pretty much devoid of merit and realistic qualities. If you're going to point out hypocrisy in atheists, it might work in your favor to list the specific offenses and then supply that most hated of relics: EVIDENCE.


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