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Patriotism and religion each hold a prominent place in the American story. That’s as it should be. To wed the two, however, is a disservice to patriots and to the faithful.

The Fourth of July is a time for Americans to honor our country and, for the many religious people among us, to honor God. But as the fireworks explode on Independence Day, let's resist an all-too-common tendency these days to drape the American flag around the Christian cross. Let's remember that religion is not patriotism, that patriotism is not religion — and that when we combine them both with a glorification of American military might, something has gone disturbingly askew.

Sadly, the distinction between faith and martial-tinged patriotism seems lost on some of our most fervent advocates for the military and religion. Rewind to Memorial Day weekend, when a Christian organization called Task Force Patriot USA and other groups staged a three-day salute to the troops at Stone Mountain Park in Georgia. Drawing about 100,000 people, the celebration featured Christian worship services and Bible giveaways, speeches by retired military personnel and Air Force jet flybys.

Not to single out Christianity. After all, a cross-themed celebration of the military is harmless next to jihadists who kill in the name of religion. And U.S. troops certainly deserve appreciation. Yet one has to ask: Do Christian worship and Bibles really belong with demonstrations of U.S. military might?

For one evangelical leader here in Oregon, the conflation of patriotism and Christianity reached the point where he took action that's considered anathema in many conservative church communities: He publicly spoke out against what was happening at his church.

Bob Hyatt, now pastor of the upstart Evergreen Community in the Portland area, worked on the staff of a local megachurch in the fevered period immediately after the 9/11 attacks. Despite being raised and educated in a strict Christian conservative environment in which the United States was regarded as God's favored nation, Hyatt was aghast to find the sanctuary frequently decked out in red-white-and-blue bunting with a pair of 50-foot American flags. In the Sunday service nearest the Fourth of July, congregants recited the Pledge of Allegiance and sang patriotic songs. As the pattern continued through the early months of the Iraq war, Hyatt could hold his tongue no longer. At a pray-for-our-troops rally at the megachurch, he took a turn at the microphone and cited the teachings of Jesus in making the unpopular suggestion that the congregants also pray for Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi people. He went on to write an Internet article titled, "Profoundly Disturbed on the Fourth of July," which was not well-received at the church and led to his leaving its staff.

'We were worshiping America'

Reflecting on those patriotic services, Hyatt wrote: "We had taken a time that belonged to the worship of God and turned it toward the appreciation of a country, a political system, a flag. We said that we were worshiping God through the singing of those patriotic songs, the saying of the Pledge of Allegiance and the rest, but in fact we were worshiping America."

There is considerable practical wisdom in the old saying about atheists in foxholes. A complete separation of faith and patriotism in a time of war is as unlikely as expecting religious soldiers not to turn to God in the face of enemy fire, and as unreasonable as expecting Christian believers to pray equally for al-Qaeda fighters and U.S. troops. Right or wrong, we have a long tradition of political and military leaders invoking God in non-neutral ways during times of war.

During the crucial D-Day invasion, President Franklin Roosevelt took to the airwaves with an appeal to "Almighty God" to "lead (our men) straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith."

Would those words arouse the ire of Americans today? Of some, probably. My own response to Roosevelt's religious invocation is colored by indelible memories of my visit to the World War II cemetery in Normandy. I still have vivid mental pictures of the graves of the American soldiers, of the crosses laid out in row after solemn row. Interspersed throughout the cemetery were many Stars of David, rising over the graves of the fallen Jewish soldiers whose role in the fight has special poignancy.

No doubt, faith has long played a role in the American military, but it has been an inclusive faith, one respecting a diversity of denominations and religions, with chaplains of different stripes available to assist soldiers on their own religious terms. Contrast that with what's been happening in the military in recent years, where sometimes-coercive Christian evangelizing has triggered lawsuits and lent a crusader overtone to the fight against terrorism. Contrast that inclusive tradition with rhetoric that portrays Jesus as America's "commander in chief" and efforts by a group called Christian Embassy to proselytize to our diplomatic corps and military leadership. Is militaristic Christian nationalism really where we want to take this country and our dominant religion?

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama recently spoke of the danger to our critical thinking ability when we become too convinced of America's righteousness and God's allegiance with the United States. While acknowledging the evil of the 9/11 attacks, Obama sounded this note of caution: "The danger of using good vs. evil in the context of war is it may lead us to be not as critical as we should be about our own actions."

Obama went on to cite the prisoner abuse scandals at Abu Ghraib and "unjust" detentions at Guantanamo as examples of the abuses of which we are capable when we become too convinced of our inherent God-sanctioned goodness.

'The light is the light of Christ'

The progressive evangelical leader Jim Wallis has sounded similar warnings to Christians who might go too far in mixing their patriotism and faith. Wallis has repeatedly chided President Bush for voicing a theology that speaks of America as "the hope of all mankind the light (that) shines in the darkness."

Wallis acknowledges the biblical foundation of such language, but he adds, it is important to note that, "In the gospel, the light shining in the darkness is the Word of God, and the light is the light of Christ. It's not about America and its values."

God and country — the two live side-by-side in the hearts of many tradition-minded Americans. Yet faith and patriotism are different ideals that at times require vastly different allegiances. Given the reality of religious pluralism in America, the government cannot rightly become the instrument of any one form of belief. Conversely, our country will not always do right — no nation can — and only by maintaining its distinct identity can religion retain its ability to call people to conscience.

May patriots honor the flag on the Fourth of July. And may religious people revel in the beauty of their faiths. But let's remember that being Christian is not a requirement of patriotism. And that patriotism is most assuredly not a requirement of being religious. Let's honor the flag and faith — by keeping a reverent measure of distance between the two.



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Anonymous Frank said...
You are quite right that equating Christianity and particular political views is idolatry.

However, why is it that atheists are so often in control of leftist totalitarian states?


Blogger Steven Bently said...
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Blogger Steven Bently said...
This country was founded upon Christian Principles and with the help of the lead propelling rifle and hand gun.

Jesus commanded that his gospel be sent all over the world, of course he thought that the world was flat and his gospel would soon be revealed to the handfull of people living in that day, approximately 144,000, hundred thousand gross, who could have imagined that the world was round and that millions of other peoples lived without ever hearing about the one Christ messiah.


And never mind the millions of the lesser-human beings that were slaughtered on their own soil, those heathen infidel savages, you know, the one's that Christians conveniently see as beneath them, the one's that do not believe as they, the lesser-humans, the one's that are not Christain.

Remember the American Flag, the symbol that took away this country from it's rightful owners, remember the Atheist infidels, the one's that do not believe in the man made human sacrifice, Jesus, the long awaited Christ Messiah.

Remember Jesus as you celebrate the taking away this land from it's rightful owners, the Native American Indians, by force and with the Bible God and Jesus' approval, spreading the gospel with the Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.

Let us not forget our Christain principles, wrapped up in a banner of conquering and slaughter.

We claim this land away from it's rightful owners and form a pledge to a cloth symbol in rememberance of our Christians principles.

May the Jesus myth continue to command us to divide and conquer other lands!


Blogger Dylan said...
Frank, I would point out to you that equating totalitarianism with atheism is also false, I'm not denying that some (though not I'm not sure a majority) of totalitarian states have been run by atheists, but that does not mean atheism leads to totalitarianism.

I think perhaps, if there is a correlation, it is probably because the leaders realize that religions hold power, and if they are to hold all the power religion will make it difficult for them.

Their rejection of religion is based on the desire they have for control...not (as in my case) philosophical and moral disagreement with religion.


Blogger RubyHypatia said...
I'm going to proudly display my American flag. I don't see it as a negative symbol because of Native Americans. Our country is always a work in progress.

It's funny, I have a Christian anti-American friend who will probably be wearing black tomorrow.


Blogger Kommissar said...
Generally a good article, *very* well written, cant help thinking we need a site for x-patriots though!

Patriotisim is religion.

Its all the more insidious when the entire country is its church.

Hitler and Stalin both relied heavily on Patriotisim, Hitler believed it, Stalin was opportunist.

If not for patriotisim, many wars could have been avoided. Not the war in defence from aggressive Islamic tendencies, that war has its roots in something else entirely, but certainly WW1 & WW2.

Stalin and Hitler would of had a harder time with population control. Most likely they would of had to use other methods of mind control.

US Patriotisim should not be synonymous with a Pro Market, let alone a Neo-Con perspective but it is.

Why can you see the intolerance & mind control of christianity but not the same in Patriotisim?


Anonymous Frank said...
As if atheists are more tolerant than theists or anyone else.

Quit yanking my chain.


Anonymous jfraysse said...
Great Article, Dave! Thanks for posting it!

“Left Wing” states are not “left-wing” necessarily because of atheism but more correctly because of their collective bent toward Totalitarianism where all facets of public and private life are controlled. So, in a real sense, the state is God and no others are allowed.

The nation of Israel, in Biblical Times, was a sort of Totalitarian State, a Theocracy to be exact, where God ran the show and no other laws, save his, were allowed. Under the rule of the Biblical God there were horrible crimes against both individuals (especially women and children) and other conquered nations that even many of today’s left-wing states would find abhorrent. Modern day Religious Fascism such as we find in radical Islamic groups are prime examples. Funny how these are referred to as extreme “Right-Wing” organizations, yet I see little or no practical difference between the extreme wings of either ideology.

This article warns that Church and State should not be combined. I couldn’t agree more. Allowing these two together wrests control from the governed and allows the state to control politics, industry, individual wealth and even ones eternal future. The founding fathers (several prominent ones NOT being Christian) knew this and purposed to prohibit these intrinsic evils in the words of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I, for one, am very thankful to live in a country where at least we have the opportunity, by virtue of our system of government, to evolve into a better, more humane society. Our system is surely not perfect, but its one of the best on the planet and this is something that I can be Patriotic about!

Again, Great Article! Happy 4th of July to Everyone!


Blogger boomSLANG said...
Frank: As if atheists are more tolerant than theists or anyone else.

Quit yanking my chain.


Dear Frank,

It might be worth noting that there wouldn't even be a need for Atheists if it were not for people INSISTING that god(s) exist. Moreover, I/we shouldn't have to be "tolerant" of any religious doctrine that either, explicitly, or implicitly, condones the killing of those who do not conform to it's respective beliefs---I give you the "Holy Bible", and the "Holy Qur'an".

If you'd like to have a look at the exact verses to which I refer, let me know and I'll provide them.


Blogger Dylan said...
"As if atheists are more tolerant than theists or anyone else.

Quit yanking my chain."

That was not, at least, my point. I don't think if a person believes in god or not has very much effect on how they behave at all.

This goes both ways...as many Christians insist that they are the more moral because they believe in god, however history quite clearly demolishes this idea.

My problem with religion is not that people believe in god, but the thoughtless dogma that goes along with many religions. And, Thoughtless dogma can certainly exist without religion, such as with communism.


Blogger Dylan said...
Oh and Frank, Of course you can run into some Atheists who are intolerant....on the other hand, lots of us are a great deal more tolerant than the fundamentalist Christians trying to run the political show in America.


Blogger Joe said...
Let's have a little historical perspective. Atheism tended to be one of the attributes of 20th century revolutions. Why? Largely because the kingdoms and empires they sought to overthrow had traditional religious institutions that had coevolved with the former regimes. If intellectual atheism had been the prevailing system, I'd imagine that some sort of anti-atheism would have been the revolutionary position.


Blogger boomSLANG said...
...I'd imagine that some sort of anti-atheism would have been the revolutionary position

Baring in mind, of course, that by definition, those who are "anti-Atheism" cannot deny one single known god; they must accept, at least the existance, of every known god.

Reasoning:

a) "Atheism" denies the existance of ALL gods.

b) To be "anti-Atheist" means you are against the denial of all gods, subsequently, this must inlcude any god, thus, you cannot deny "any" god.

c) This philosophy contradicts monotheism....i.e..it makes "Jesus" and "Allah" very angry!

Just sayin'


Anonymous Frank said...
Of course some leaders give lip service to religion when it suits them.

And Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and the whole string of 20th century mass murderers gave lip service to atheism.

Moreover, atheism serves well in this regard, if you are going to argue the weak definition that it is only a "lack of belief".

If so, then nothing in inconsistent with atheism, and any perversion is consistent with it.

Which effectively castrates it and renders it meaningless anyway.

Whatever.


Blogger georgiaathiest said...
I agree with Steven totally. I could not have said it better.


Blogger Hellbound Alleee said...
Yes. Faith is red, white, and blue. It is also blue, white and red, and comes with a red maple leaf.

Patriotism is not an emotion connected with any kind of reality. It is nostalgia, it is wanting to be liked, it is faith. Countries are concepts like "God," and being proud to live in a country has no more basis in reason than being proud to be white. It makes no sense, and it does nothing to help anyone.

Frank's comment, however annoying, should say something to atheists: we are not immune from the faith-belief in something called a "country," or concepts such as democracy or patriotism. Frank probably thinks that a leftist totalitarian state is somehow "worse" than a right-wing, theocratic state, like Iran. If somehow we worshipped the "right God," we would be bullied, kidnapped, and killed by a more righteous ruling class. He's deluded, clearly.

But lets not delude ourselves. Democracy lets you decide between two groups of bullies--which group do you want stealing from you, kidnapping your neighbors, putting them to death, and calling it "the law?"

You're an atheist, so you know that might does not make right. So neither does the group with the most guns. So what are you proud of again? Are you going to be proud of a concept that you were told existed at one time, and are pretty sure it is not being put into use today? Or are you going to be proud of stuff that is real, like your family, friends and accomplishments?


Blogger Hellbound Alleee said...
The reason atheists are in control of leftist totalitarian states is that the rightist ones are in the control of religious people.


Anonymous Dylan said...
"Of course some leaders give lip service to religion when it suits them.

And Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and the whole string of 20th century mass murderers gave lip service to atheism.

Moreover, atheism serves well in this regard, if you are going to argue the weak definition that it is only a "lack of belief".

If so, then nothing in inconsistent with atheism, and any perversion is consistent with it.

Which effectively castrates it and renders it meaningless anyway.

Whatever."


Frank, Much of this could be said of Christianity as well.

In any case it just doesn't matter, one you make the mistake of thinking that atheists define themselves by what they don't believe ( I.E. their atheism) I can tell you that there is a lot more to me than my disbelief and you do me a disservice when you act as if there is not.

I have no problem admitting Stalin was an atheist because I also know that the similarities between him and I stop there. The things I actually DO believe in are very much different.

You would be right that virtually any belief system is compatible with atheism, but as I pointed out, a persons believe about god is not what makes someone moral or immoral, it is, instead, what they believe about other people that decides this.

I fail to see what you are trying to accomplish with this line of argument... Stalin was an atheist...so what? Would you abandon Christianity just because St. Augustine was an asshole? Or because the perpetrators of the Crusades or holocaust were Christians? Would you like it if I lumped you in as the same as them simply because you share a few similar beliefs?


Anonymous Frank said...
Of course not.

But atheists frequently make the argument that because there were crusades, etc, Christianity is false.

Of course commitment to atheism as part of the philosophy, Dialectical Materialism, did not prevent Gulags, "re-education" centers, brainwashing camps, or close to 100 million murders.

And, if Richard Dawkins is correct that most scientists are atheists (and would he lie?), then it didn't keep them from filling the world with nuclear weapons.

I know, fundies talk about the end of the world...but atheistic scientists have made it possible!


Blogger .:webmaster:. said...
Frank,

Your marginalizing of all atheists is interesting, especially in light of your man-god's command to bless and curse not.

Our species is a violent one, and we should all be grateful for that or we would never have climbed to the top of the food chain. You just don't conquer nature and stronger, faster, more powerful fanged and clawed animals by being sweet.

We are an agressive species that has been experimenting with a variety of systems of organization and community as our population increases and increases.

You seem to paint things as if there were only two choices: Christian democracy vs. Atheistic communism. That's a false dichotomy. There are also the systems of "Christian" kings and queens, Islamic theocratic rule, Jewish theocracy, Fascist dictatorships without reference to religion at all, Catholic theocracy, Greek democracy and senate rule, Nobles and serfs... the list is quite long.

It is a misnomer and a lie that "there have been more deaths at the hands of atheists than... whatever."

In fact, here is just a light overview of Christian atrocities: Victims of the Christian Faith.

Anyway, taking a body count seems counterproductive to your cause. I mean, if you're trying to say murder for the sake of ideology is bad, then I agree. But if you're trying to say that if Christianity killed one million and a communist state killed two million, and that's why Christianity is good, well, I think all you've showed is that both Christianity and communism are horrific things.

Do you get the point? When a government severely restricts personal freedoms and personal conscience, then atrocities happen. If this country outlawed all by Christianity, would that make you happy? And yet, that is exactly what your God commanded in Israel, and anyone who didn't get in line with the program was murdered.

Think about it.

Any system that forces compliance with the state's ideology, whether Christian, Islam, or formally atheist, is a terrible system.


Blogger Jim Arvo said...
Frank said "...atheists frequently make the argument that because there were crusades, etc, Christianity is false."

You are almost correct! Let me offer a slight rephrasing of your statement that I assert is entirely correct, albeit grammatically wanting. I'll emphasize the redaction in bold:

Many Christians falsely claim that atheists frequently make the argument that because there were crusades, etc, Christianity is false.

As for scientists "filling the world with nuclear weapons", I'll simply point out that science provided the insights that made nuclear weapons possible; it was then left to governments to use them and proliferate them. While I do not lightly dismiss arguments concerning culpability, I think it extremely naive to lay all the blame at the feet of scientists.


Anonymous Frank said...
Nah, I don't think so.

If you put guns inn the hands of waring gangs, YOU are to blame.


Blogger boomSLANG said...
Frank attempts: If you put guns [in] the hands of waring gangs, YOU are to blame.

Speaking of "guns" and wars, which wars, as we speak, are being fought over "NON-belief" in a "God"? Let's see....it's the Christian nation VS the Muslim nation; it's the Protestants VS the Catholics; it's the Jews VS the Arabs.

Well looky there...all wars currently being fought, are being fought over who has the right interpretation of "God"---the same Abrahamic "God", no less. Brilliant.

And BTW, if they didn't have "guns", it would be knives; if they didn't knives, it would be stones; if they didn't have stones, it would be sticks; if they didn't have sticks, it would be fists. Where reason fails...FORCE prevails!


Blogger Jim Arvo said...
Frank said "If you put guns inn the hands of waring gangs, YOU are to blame."

Sorry, but that's a bit too simplistic for my taste. Apparently you wish to affix blame to one side using one extreme scenario. Doesn't work for me.


Blogger twincats said...
Frank said: “But atheists frequently make the argument that because there were crusades, etc, Christianity is false.”

Maybe, but I doubt it. People like Dawkins are actually saying that crusades, inquisitions, witch burnings, biblical slaughter by God’s chosen and such prove that Christianity is evil.

If you read "The God Delusion" there are plenty of different arguments that say it’s false.


Blogger freeman said...
Frank,
According to your logic, since god created evil, then god is to blame for all the atrocities that men have committed throughout history!


Blogger RubyHypatia said...
Patriotism is not religion, I don't worship my country. But I am proud of it. We've accomplished so much in terms of libery. Just think, centuries ago people were the property of their government. We should all understand just how lucky we are as compared to almost every person who ever lived.


Anonymous Dylan said...
"Of course not.

But atheists frequently make the argument that because there were crusades, etc, Christianity is false."

Frank, have you noticed that none of the atheists here are saying this Frank? which atheists frequently make this claim...it is a logical fallacy so I doubt many would.

"Of course commitment to atheism as part of the philosophy, Dialectical Materialism, did not prevent Gulags, "re-education" centers, brainwashing camps, or close to 100 million murders."

and neither did a belief in religion or god prevent other people from doing the same things...

"And, if Richard Dawkins is correct that most scientists are atheists (and would he lie?), then it didn't keep them from filling the world with nuclear weapons."

This is a somewhat myopic view since science has also done many good things as well...and again, no one here is claiming that any particular atheist is necessarily more moral than a theist

"I know, fundies talk about the end of the world...but atheistic scientists have made it possible!"

Yes, and science may also be able to stop the end of the world as well. Technology is not our foe, but the people who wield it are the ones we should really be scared of.


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