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GREENWOOD, Mo. (ABP) -- In what the detective investigating it described as Missouri's biggest clergy sex-abuse to date, Shawn Davies, a 33-year-old former music and youth minister, was sentenced Jan. 12 to 20 years in prison for molesting children at First Baptist Church of Greenwood, Mo.

Davies was convicted of 25 counts of abuse dating from 2003. Charges included statutory sodomy, furnishing pornographic material to minors, supplying liquor to minors, sexual misconduct with a child under the age of 14, use of a child in sexual performance and endangering the welfare of a child.

Under a plea-bargain deal, Davies will serve the 20 years as concurrent sentences for crimes committed in Missouri and Kentucky.

Davies was earlier convicted of molesting children at three Kentucky Baptist churches. He had been serving jail time in Kentucky when authorities returned him to Jackson County, Mo., last year.

A sheriff's office in Kentucky began investigating Davies in 2001 after a boy told deputies his youth minister had shown him pornographic movies.

Police started the Missouri investigation in July 2005 after another boy came forward with charges of sexual molestation. All told, seven boys connected with the Greenwood church were abused, according to Greenwood detective Robert Leslie. Leslie said at least 13 victims total have come forward with allegations, including children in Missouri, Kentucky and Michigan.

"This man is a predator," Leslie said. "He is going to be a cancer to society unless he is locked up. I'm sure there are still other victims of Shawn's out there."

None of the victims were present at the sentencing, although Leslie said Davies apologized to some of the victims' parents who were in the courtroom.

Davies went to prison in December of 2005, but KCTV-5, the local CBS affiliate, ran an investigative story on the case a few months later. It indicated Davies may have abused at least two more boys at the Greenwood church before senior pastor Mike Roy fired him.

Lee Orth, chairman of the church's litigation committee, said KCTV's claim to have broken the story of new abuse was "total nonsense."

"The church right away took steps…as soon as this broke," he said. "Everybody was open about it. The reason why there wasn't a lot of talk about it was because of the victims," who were present in church services before the abuse was announced.

He said the investigation was “kind of low-key, but it was not hidden. It was talked about in the open. It was not at all swept [under] the rug."

Orth said the church fully cooperated with authorities and made professional counseling available to anyone who wanted it. The abuse was a tragedy for Davies' family and for the church, he said.

Leslie maintains he has reason to believe Roy may have known about some improprieties before he fired Davies, but Roy has declined to talk with authorities.

"It was mishandled," Orth said of Roy's decision not to talk. "Mike felt bad because it happened on his watch. He felt bad about that."

Roy hired Davies to lead music at the 165-year-old Greenwood church in 2003. They had known each other since 1998, when they both attended Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

Roy, who has since left the Greenwood church, could not be reached for comment on this story. Bobby Albers, First Baptist's associate pastor, was unavailable for comment. Orth said a search committee has been formed to find a new pastor.

At the time the TV station publicized the case, David Clippard, executive director of the Missouri Baptist Convention, said his organization has no standard practice for dealing with clergy sexual abuse. But he noted that the MBC does help churches run background checks on employees.

"We have equipped our churches with the tools and the forms and the questions," Clippard said. "We have gone to great lengths to provide our churches with information on how to do background checks."

Ultimately, however, the individual church is accountable for its hiring policies, he added.

Leslie said officials have not launched a criminal investigation to determine if church leaders are guilty of harboring Davies after they knew about the abuse.

Still, several of the churches where Davies worked before being hired in Greenwood were open about his sexual problems, Leslie said. After obtaining a copy of Davies' resume and calling references listed there, Leslie said church leaders told him they were forthcoming in warning others about Davies' addiction to pornography and the fact that he "didn't work well with children."

But while past employers did not give Davies favorable job references, Davies had no problem continuing to get church jobs, Leslie said.

"It always hits the papers when a female teacher has sex with 14- or 13-year-old boys, but when a pastor sexually abuses … young boys, it's kept quiet," Leslie said. "If the first victim had come forward, it's possible that we wouldn't have these other victims today."

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Blogger Audie said...
Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that there is a Jesus and a Holy Spirit. Where are they while this is going on? The bible states that the Holy Spirit is ever present with the believers, and that Jesus will never leave or forsake His flock. So what are they doing, flying around the room and watching?

I guess we really will know them by thier fruits!!!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
By no means am I defending the youth ministers actions; however, at age 33, I'd say he hadn't been out of his "young" days that long.

I believe the church to be the "CANCER" preying on gay individuals. If their strict "pray away the gay" was never in exsistance, perhaps this youth minister would not have saught the attention of teens and perhaps found a relationship with someone his own age who identified with him? Having to HIDE ones sexual identity will lead to many forms of abuse, one of them being the adolation of the most non-judgemental, that being teens. Teens were less likely to judge this man.

Yet, by no means am I defending his actions. To solicit or intice anyone under the age of 18 is just not right! Even if the teen was the predator, and YES teens as early in age as 13 are out there looking for sex with older men! They are not immune in todays society from sex at even age 11. From media choices to the wide availability of unacountability in porn, friendships, and public trust--teens are having sex at earlier ages. However one feels about it, it must be known that it's not always the adults fault. Some adults who don't even touch the teen are then made to be targets of teen agnst to where the teen has created a false scenerio to demonize said adult who didn't partake of the teens advances. Lives are ruined and the teen moves on---how the teen will feel about his actions later in life? Well, if he's a Christian, he'll just feel as if GOD forgave him, all the while, an innocent man is behind bars for something he might have never done? One needs to have an open mind when flipping both sides of the "sexual abuse" coin!

Let's eliminate RAPARATIVE Therapy and prove to the world what BULLSHIT it is and the damage it does!


Anonymous Sammy said...
Davies was convicted of 25 counts of abuse dating from 2003. Charges included statutory sodomy, furnishing pornographic material to minors, supplying liquor to minors, sexual misconduct with a child under the age of 14, use of a child in sexual performance and endangering the welfare of a child.

25 counts? Sounds like this guy was just warming up, these are just the cases reported.

Should have benn called, First Baptist Church of Sodom and Gomorrah.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Steven, Gay DOES NOT automatically mean pedophile AND pedophile does not automatically mean gay!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
oops, excuse me stevie (not steven)


Blogger Audie said...
Stevie, I'm not sure where you are trying to go, but this guy is not "an innocent man behind bars". He has a problem, and we can talk about therepy until we're blue in the face, but he is still a sick pervert and needs to be locked the fuck up!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
You're right Anony, Gay DOES NOT automatically mean pedophile AND pedophile does not automatically mean gay! If you read my post correctly, you'd see I would NEVER EVER equate the two together. I'm one of the most vocal apponents of such language and freqently appear in print against Christians who use any vile tactic to equate homosexuality with a sickness, a perversion, and pedophilia.

My comment is that you can't judge someone until the proof is indisputable! This guy probably likes irrpubesant (mispelled) cock, and he's most likely a sicko--but, In reference to the many gay men who are EASY targets for Christian hypocrisy, we are constantly set up by their bullshit. My friend from WSB TV in Atlanta was sentenced to 2 years for BULLSHIT. The case was he molested a little African-American boy (2 years old) in a time-frame of 1 minute, while at work, as this was a co-workers son who had no buisness being in the control room. The man, an unstable maintance employee, Obviously trained his kid to say: "He touched my Pee-Pee" and that's all it took. My friend lost his life. He's now on a sexual predators list nationwide and is out of an awesome career that we worked his ass off for. He is an innocent man who was convicted by a majority black racist & homophobic jury--certainly NOT his peers, and NOT justice. This is only one example of why it's important NOT to jump on the bandwagon until all information is accountable. Homosexuals have always been easy targets!

Another point I was putting out there is that the CHURCH is responsible for abuse. Having to HIDE your sexuality from church members, family, students, co-workers, and friends has horrible repercussions. The church preaches anti-gay crap on a continuous basis. I should know, I was in a ministry which did (albeit I was fearfully in the closet until provoked). I had my face smashed in by "Good CHRISTIAN's" in the name of GOD, because I was an "ABOMINATION"... There is NOTHING a Christian can ever do to make up for the shit I went through due to their religion! I've heard the most vile shit from preachers and youth ministers almost unimaginable in mainstream media. No one says "molest a child." and only a complete moronic idiot would stoop to such behavior; however, the church has long kept silent of preist who do molest children, and many demoninations choose silence over scandle in simular situations---this creates an even more intolerant atmosphere where a Christian easily equates a gay indiviudal with pedophilia--which sucks. But many former Christians who are gay (if an individual can really say he was a "former" Christian, that's up for debate) are stepping into the religious community and breaking down the myth of gay equals pedophillia. More power to 'em, and more power to those who write letters to the editor of prints, who speak on radio, who use the media to fight for change!

Also, comments like "We'll know them by their FRUITS" isn't amusing, it's condensending.


Blogger Audie said...
"Also, comments like "We'll know them by their FRUITS" isn't amusing, it's condensending. "

And, it's true. Jesus said that we would know them (His followers) by thier fruits (or what thier life produced and thier actions). And this is it what they produce and do!! Hell, I don't believe in God, but yet I would never even think about touching a child or underage teen. But they do. So does that mean that I am more "rightious" then they are"?

You may find that condesending, but I call it the way I see it.


Anonymous Madame M said...
Stevie,

I think you are transfering your angst over your friend onto this child molesting pastor. I seriously do not agree with you. Just because a person is gay does and in an unaccepting atmosphere does not mean they have to have sex with prepubescent boys. For that matter, just because a person is straight and not married and therefore in an atmosphere not accepting of him having premarital sex would not give him permission to have sex with prepubescent girls. The church has alot of rules regarding sex, but that doesn't give anyone the right to prey on a child. At least Haggard hired an adult prostitute. I know plenty of gay men and women who were christians and did not resort to raping children.

BTW, I'm 33 and I am definately quite far away from my "young teen days". This pastor needs to have his stuff cut off before he damages anymore children.


Blogger Audie said...
Stevie, Madame is right. I'm sorry about your friend, but th information we have seen here, this guy is not just the innocent victim of some sex-crazed teen. Otherwise I'd attempt to defend the guy, like I did here:

http://exchristian.net/2/2007/01/pastor-found-guilty-of-sexual.html

Now, from what info that I have, this guy got fucked over, but not Shawn Davies.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Madame M: I'm not defending this mans actions. You're obviously a VERY poor reader. Are you not able to grasp the fact that gays are targeted by christians unjustifiably? This is obviously pick on Stevie P. day. Your comments are suggestive of a failure to understand logic and discuss an issue--perhaps you were in the church just a little too long? (smirk)

And using the word FRUIT in that aspect WAS a homophobic slur, even if it were the words of a fictional character-- given a slight benefit of the dout, a bad word choice at best!

I would NEVER EVER EVER FUCKING EVER agree to anyone touching a child, nor am I standing up for Davies--- Can you read that Madame M? I expected better & a higher intelligence from this site---perhaps the webmaster can assure me of that next time? Stevie P. <---nice guy until pissed off!


Blogger Audie said...
Stevie, personally, I am not trying to pick on Stevie. I just wasn't sure where you were coming from. It really did sound like you were trying to defend this guy.

And NO, my use of the word "FRUIT" was NOT, I repeat, NOT a homophobic slur. It's from the bible (a few years ago I could have told you exactly from where)

Your sexuality means absolutely nothing to me. I'm straight, married for 15 years, but I have friends who are gay, bi, and even a Trans-gendered person who used to work for my step mom. But none of that matters to me. I look at the persons that they are. And they are good people.

So, your sexuality is a non-issue with me. As long as it only involves consenting adults, I could care-a-less.


Blogger Audie said...
Stevie, As I reread the replies, it sounds like we are all trying to say the same thing - that the guy is a shit-bag. But the communication is breaking down somewhere. I think Madame thought the same thing that I did- that you were defending this guy. And what I got out of her post was that she was saying that either gay or strait, it is wrong to have sex with a prepubescent child, either boy or girl. And that I do agree with!!

Thats what I get out of it all, but I'm not a great reader either.

But as a fellow ex-xian, I would never intentionally say anything offend you, especially when it involves sexuality. I feel we are all brothers and sisters in this thing, and need to stick together.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stevie, your comments were troubling. A 33 year old is an adult and responsible for his actions. Short of mental incompetence, there are no excuses. When an adult minister sexually molests an underage minor, it is ALWAYS the adult's fault. No exceptions. Just because some teens may already be sexually active doesn't mean that it is ever OK for an adult to molest, exploit or rape them. They are entitled to develop their own sexuality in their own timeframe without having it pushed on them by an adult authority figure. To suggest that an innocent man may wind up behind bars just because some teen was out to get him ignores the reality that a man winds up behind bars for child molestation only if there was a prosecution through the justice system which would require proof beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. Does the justice system ever make mistakes? Sure. But that happens with every other kind of crime as well, and we continue to prosecute them.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thanks Audie for your support of the gay community. I see your choice of the word "fruit" was based upon scripture reference, and perhaps with an overly sensative eye (most gays today, due to this administration, are overly sensative) I jumped the gun.

However, as for Christa Brown, 33 years old is most definately an adult, but abuse from the church towards homosexuals has played a roll in the suppression of ones sexuality, thus, some seek escorts, wrongly fall in love with heterosexual men, and all sorts of issues at ANY age.
I'm not saying a proven child predator is victim to anything--I'm saying however that the church needs to be held responsible for arboring them, thus giving them the chance to do it again! This guy continued to get jobs in churches where he continously molested kids because the chuches were silent and went by a freaking chuch code of fucked up ethics! And I pose this to you, since you're so "troubled" by rational comments: Perhaps you have a husband, son, brother, or male co-worker who you adore and have the upmost faith in? Let's pose the question--what if a child accused him of molestation. Are you going to automatically assume the child was right? From your post, it would seem you would drop your belief in your loved one QUICKLY and take the word of a child. This is frightning and very sad. One should ALWAYS keep an open, clear frame of thought! It is proven that Children LIE, and some in these molestation suits are taught to LIE by theiving civil suit money grubbers.

When I posted the comment that one needs to look at both sides of the sexual abuse coin, I offered up the debate for folks to THINK about those who are EASILY, oh so easily, falsely accused in today's ever FEAR INDUCED AMERICA. When the justice system fails the truely innocent, one is still INNOCENT regardless and does NOT deserve the inhumanity of a label that was WRONG. I'm glad you have such a high regard for our justice system, but I DON'T and as a minority I have seen the system FAIL MISERABLY due to racism and homophobia! By no means would I EVER defend a child molestor, but as with every issue in life, I give one the benefit of doubt and have an analytical ability to discren fact from fiction. One should not allow his perception to be crowded by heated emotions. Sure, often a sensativity allows one to question, but questioning most anything is healthy! Perhaps that is why so many of my friends are divorce lawyers (smirk)!

PEACE.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Oh--and yes, from what I've read about this preacher, I'd say he needs his dick cut off--and while their at it, chop off those hundreds of preist the Pope pardoned from persecution who molested hundreds of children over decades of time!


Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is a bit off the subject, but what type of "loving" Christian torture do you suppose Ted Haggard is being put through? Didn't he state that he'd had gay thoughts when he was young? I now that he's an adult (ex-pastor) who's married with 5 kids & "acting out", what do you all think is happening to him? That's a serious question. I bet there's a lot of Christian psychological torture going on. What ya think? CJ-R


Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I'm saying however that the church needs to be responsible for harboring them." Well said, Stevie. If you look at my website you'll see that it's exactly what I'm saying as well. www.stopbaptistpredators.org Baptist churches and Baptist leaders need to be held accountable.

Interesting that you mention the hundreds of priests who have molested kids. There has been lots of media exposure for the child molestation problem among Catholic priests, but comparatively very little for the child molestation problem in the largest Protestant denomination - Southern Baptists. It's long overdue.

Incidentally, a probably little known fact - the North Carolina Baptist Convention will "investigate" churches that allow gays as members, but it won't investigate churches with reported clergy child molesters in the pulpit. And please note...I said "reported." I'm not presuming guilt, but rather that there needs to be a process for accountability within the denomination so that some review board with some measure of objectivity looks into it rather than simply having churches sweep such reports under the rug.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Oh...and another thing I agree with you on, Stevie. The hush-it-up code of silence that too many Baptist churches have shown with regard to clergy child molestation is demonstrative of one heckuva messed up code of ethics. In fact, there's just nothing ethical about it at all.


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