People accuse people of many things, true and untrue. Did they not falsely accuse the Christ (Messiah) of God, and have him murdered?
It seems to make people feel superior to others than themselves, to denegrate the character, and bring down any one they feel they can get by with doing so.
"The Hunman Heart is deceitful above all things, and despertely wicked , "who can know it?

Humanitry is sick at Heart...
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Well, seems the nutters are here... What does the kiddie fiddling monster wrapped in the robes of a man of God have to do with Jesus? As far as I'm aware, Jesus didn't shag his family members... seems you've got a crossed wire you cone headed moron.

Lots of Love

Grandpa.

No NO Please say it aint so! NOT Papa Pilgrim! He had CHRIST in his HEART! CHRIST WAS HIS KING! BUT BUT BUT HE HAD JESUS! LOL LOL

Anonymous, what´s the weather like on your planet?

Can you really be this naive? This kind of sick shit is always going on in secluded societies with a male in charge. They´re called "cults" and they exist to get the alpha male whatever he wants. For some reason, in "religious" communities, this always seems to include underage pussy. ONE count of incest seems tame.

If some rat-bastard manages to convince a number of people that he is a man of God and gets them to obey his every command, sooner or later he starts to believe it of himself.

Warren Jeffs, anyone?

To the first anonymous writer. I do not mean to offend you by offering you some constructive criticism of your opinion of the man history has named Jesus Christ. Christ (if even that was his name) was Jewish and was put to death by the Romans for insurrection not because he was considered the long awaited Son of David according to Jewish religion. The Romans didn't take kindly to anyone questioning their right to govern. Jesus was just another Jewish rebel who died as an example of rebelling against the Roman government. His death was so unnoticed that only a few people even reacted to it. The "idea" that he was the Messiah (as you call him) took hold possibly at least a century later. And any information we have on this character in the New Testament was based strictly upon word of mouth. That is, "he said, that she said" kind of historical recording. Yes, he was "murdered" by the Romans;the Romans didn't see it that way. Certainly the later Christians hundreds of years later claim he was and they, in fact, are responsible for much of the antisemtism that resulted from the mistaken notion of Jews as "Christ Killers." I think it was Josepheus, a historian of that period of Jewish/Roman history, who wrote something to the effect that the road was littered with crucified people. Does any of this make sense to you at this point in your life when you feel you "need" to hold onto your faith? I know you do not accept evidence of this sort. Neither does Mel Gibson. But perhaps I can strike a spark in your critical thinking that I know you are capable of using. Yes, I agree "the human heart is deceitful above all things..." Your heart, I believe, is deceiving your ability to, at least, try to think critically about your belief. You will not go to hell for using your critical thinking. And by doing so, you might just find for yourself that you are alredy in heaven before you die.

I'd never heard of this guy until I read an article about him in today's Washington Post. It's online at

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/26/AR2006122600847.html

The following, which is from that article, provides some interesting background.

"To drum up publicity for the court challenge, Hale and his handlers from the land-rights movement invited me and other reporters to spend the night at Hillbilly Heaven in the late summer of 2003.

"In the course of a long evening spent with his children and his wife, who listened to Hale in worshipful silence, it seemed that he held a cultlike control over his family. None of the older children, several of whom were in their 20s, wanted or needed any life outside the family, Hale said then. He said they were all virgins.

"Hale, it turned out, had had an extraordinarily odd life before bringing his family to Alaska.

"He grew up affluent in Fort Worth, the son of I.B. Hale, an All-America tackle at Texas Christian University who in 1939 was the first-round draft pick of the Washington Redskins.

"While in high school, Robert Hale eloped to Florida in 1958 with Kathleen Connally, the 16-year-old daughter of John B. Connally; Connally was to become governor of Texas and was wounded when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Shortly thereafter, she died of a shotgun blast to the face, an apparent suicide that Hale said occurred while he was with her in a hotel room.

"In the 1970s, when Hale called himself "Sunstar" and lived as a hippie, he met Kurina Rose Bresler, then 16. They moved with their first two children to a subsistence farm in New Mexico on land owned by actor Jack Nicholson. They lived there for more than 20 years, tanning leather, breeding dogs and antagonizing many neighbors. It was there they became born-again Christians, Hale said."

Off the subject again but I thought it was all God’s idea to have Jesus sacrificed? Isn’t God culpable for the murder of Jesus in the same manner that Charlie Manson is culpable for the murders that his followers carried out?

How can God be culpable for the murder of Himself? Jesus Croaked in the Spook on the big giant stick and sacrificed Himself to Himself to appease the anger of the Sky Him against us. But then He Magically Undeadened Himself three day later, so there was really no murder. Glory!

I gott my 2 sistas pregnint an dim dare babeys looks jus like me to.

Yall coming on here talking bout my G-bus thet ant rite.

git yoor hart rite wit galled today.

Weez a praying for ewe all. ya here?