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BTK killer denied exorcism

Posted Tuesday, January 17, 2006. — View & Post Comments »

A Kansas sheriff refused to let the BTK killer's pastor perform a jailhouse exorcism on Dennis Rader, the Rev. Michael Clark said after a speech.

Clark, pastor of Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita, told listeners at Holy Cross Lutheran Church in Overland Park that he believes Rader was driven by the devil to kill 10 people during a 13-year period, the Kansas City Star reported. Rader, who pleaded guilty, is serving 10 consecutive life sentences.

"Dennis was influenced, I believe, by some kind of demonic force and that played a role in the choices and decisions he made," Clark said.

Clark did not totally absolve Rader from responsibility for the killings, saying that he decided to respond to the demonic force.

Rader was known at his church as a devout man who served as president of the congregation. In his neighborhood, he was known as a stickler for rules and regulations.

Clark refused to answer a question about whether Rader had shown remorse.

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Comments:

Bruce said...

Let's just set up a separate justice system for Christians. Because Christians must be possessed or influenced by Satan, they are nor repsonsible. For all the rest of us non-Christians we can either convert or go to jail. The totally idiocy of theistic thought is illustrated by the remarks of this Lutheran pastor.

January 17, 2006

Yours Truly said...

How can one tell if they are possessed by Satan or God? Look at GWB, Bill Clinton, Hillary, Al Gore, Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Jessie Jackson. name a leader.

January 18, 2006

Bob (Been There, Got the T-Shirt) said...

Let's have the exorcism right here... for Pastor Clark. He is possessed by a two millenium (+/-) long Jesus myth. It makes your logic spin around and strange utterances can be heard about how the individual is not responsible for their actions.

January 18, 2006

SpaceMonk said...

"...he decided to respond to the demonic force."

So the demon is irrelevant. He could have decided to not respond also. It was all his own actions.

January 18, 2006

Shannon said...

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

“Spook be gone! Spook be gone!”

Somewhere there has to be a line where you just don’t get away with what you chose to do. Some things are just inexcusable.

What pisses me off is that the day before Mr. Rader was arrested he, by many, would have been considered more virtuous than I. Merely, on the fact that he was/is a Christian and I am an atheist. And now his culpability is less because he was too susceptible to the ‘devil’s’ charm? That’s dangerous and sick thinking.

January 18, 2006

Dave8 said...

Clark, pastor of Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita, attempting a publicity stunt, like the pastor for Jeffrey Dahmer did, in his jailhouse baptism...

I know this pastor is just kicking himself, because Rader was already baptised, a missed opportunity for free publicity, and also the ablity to separate himself from Rader...

Rader was part of the upper echelon of the church... The pastor is attempting to say that its not the church, where Rader was baptised... its dem' demons that entered his soul after da' baptism dat' gat hol' on em'...

January 18, 2006

Joey said...

After the exorcism, how can one tell if the demons have left? Does he start speaking in tongues, and quoting scripture? Singing hymns and praising Jesus? Start his own church? Become an ordained minister or a TV evangelist?

January 18, 2006

Dano said...

"Rader was known at his church as a devout man who served as president of the congregation. In his neighborhood, he was known as a stickler for rules and regulations"

Kinda makes ya wonder jus how many "DEVOUT MEN" are hiding in the churches, and living amongst us? Pretty scary, huh?
Dan

January 18, 2006

Truthbound said...

My church used to teach that "the more righteous you were or the greater warrior you become for god, the bigger target you would be for satan attacks, because satan only concerns himself with those who are effictively working against him."

I'm sure that the church holds Mr. Radar in high regard, because he was obviously pissing off the devil with his righteous deeds for god. They will almost see him as a hero and want to comfort him for the attack.

How sick and twisted!

January 18, 2006

Anonymous said...

One day a fourth-grade teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up-fireman, mechanic, businessman, salesman, doctor, lawyer, and so forth.

But little Justin was being uncharacteristically quiet, so when the teacher prodded him about his father, he replied, "My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men and they put money in his underwear. Sometimes, if the offer is really good, he will go home with some guy for money."

The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and then took little Justin aside to ask him, "Is that really true about your father?"

"No," the boy said, "He works for the Democratic National Committee and is helping to secure the nomination of Hillary Clinton, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids .

January 18, 2006

Anonymous said...

The only way to be possessed by Satan is to be possessed by religion first.

January 18, 2006

Jim Lee said...

What a load of crap all this rubbish about people being possessed by the devil. This is 2006 not the dark ages. Christianity can no longer prove to the secular world that its God exists or existed. The same applies for its supposed Jesus and they cannot prove the existence of a devil either. In a world where false advertising is a criminal offence, I don't know how Christianity gets away with the lies that it portrays.

January 18, 2006

Dano said...

Jim Lee wrote:
"In a world where false advertising is a criminal offense, I don't know how Christianity gets away with the lies that it portrays"

I think you are on to something there Jim, maybe even "Breach of contract," for not delivering the "Relationship with Jesus," that it advertises.
Dan

January 18, 2006

freeman said...

Jim Lee and Dano,
See the following link.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/

Here is part of the article.

"An Italian court is tackling Jesus -- and whether the Roman Catholic Church may be breaking the law by teaching that he existed 2,000 years ago."

"The case pits against each other two men in their 70s, who are from the same central Italian town and even went to the same seminary school in their teenage years."

"Cascioli says Righi, and by extension the whole Church, broke two Italian laws. The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona," or impersonation."

January 18, 2006

coolmtnman said...

He is mentally ill just like all Christians

January 18, 2006

Anonymous said...

Dennis Rader is a Freak...!
He will get what coming to him in prision. I willing to pay good money to watch him die like he made all his victems die but slower and longer.

January 21, 2006

s. a. kerns said...

Anonymous said...
"Dennis Rader is a Freak...I willing to pay good money to watch him die like he made all his victems die but slower and longer."

With such a civilized and enlightened view, how soon before we may expect you to commit a similar crime?

I think you should go back to your church -- your head is still filled with hate, revenge, and schadenfreude. Good biblical principles.

January 25, 2006